Paolino

I'm slightly amused right now. I'm a bigtime I Love Lucy fan... I needed a laugh before I went to bed tonight, so I popped in a DVD. They're in Switzerland and Ricky is on the phone saying "Get the band over to Lucerne." Never paid any attention to the name until the past two years.

I wouldn't go with those exact colors, but you have the right idea

Keanu Reeves

Welcome to LED gauges. I don't get it--they're not overly expensive--they should put them in Buick's too... even Pontiacs. They would have the ability to have some fun, get creative. Yes, I understand Buick is traditionally greenish-blue, and Pontiac is red, but again, have some fun with it. Give the gauges some life. I find Pontiac's and Buick's gauges, boring.

Why would the DTS have a grille or taillight change for 07?! It was completely refreshed inside and out for 06?!

Is it my imagination, or does the order guide only show ebony as the only available interior color?!

string

How long is the Grand Prix going to be around again? Is this the last year or is next year the last?

That is SO disappointing.

attorney

He said "about" as good as you're gonna get. Let's face it, the platform is old, and it's going. Anyway, I prefer the interior to the Impala over the Grand Prix... so to me, overall they're about equal.

Cananopie... I don't know how I didn't notice the double-negative! Arg, I coulda saved myself the trouble of finding pictures of the butts of those cars too! I don't feel the Lucerne taillamps are "un-Buick", however, I feel they resemble VW too much, because they have illuminated circles in their horizontal bars. I think the LaCrosse taillamps are very un-Buick because they don't stretch across the rear horizontally. If the Lucerne's taillamps were illuminated in some fashion that was unique, it might work better and be more traditional.

Cananopie--Buick has had taillamps that stretched across often--the last Regal, Century, LeSabre and Park Avenue had taillamps that went most of the way across. The previous generation Century (mine), had taillamps that went completely across--which went up to the year 1996.Here is the last gen Century--the illumination stopped just before the backup lights: Here is the LeSabre--same deal as above--illumination went up to the backup lights: Here's the Buick Park Avenue... the bottom half was the brake light, and top half the signal: These are all cars that were out either last year or 2 years ago!

Here's the best I can get:

Fly, as good friends with someone who has owned a TL for a few years, the farmost, outer flashing bulb that flickers when making a turn, is a single bulb, not part of the LED cluster. I should borrow someone's camera and take pictures closeup... trust me, the entire rear is sorta like the new Accord taillamps--the whole brake setup is LED, but the directional is a single bulb: I put the Accord Hybrid which features an Amber bulb to show it clearer than the all-red Accord sedan

That's my theory--that they just rename colors... rarely altering them. Then again, we won't know if there's a real difference in the color until we see them. I saw my first sapphire metallic LaCrosse on the road 2 weeks ago, and it looked really nice.

Well, in C&D's defense, it is an OLD platform that even gets mocked by people here who are GM enthusiasts for it's shortcomings.But, are you that surprised? It's FWD, has less hp than the 300C, c'mon... it seems as though GM is not going to do any good by critics' standards.

Oh God, do it! Do it! lol

Wait, Fly, the turn signal in the TL is not made of LEDs, only the brakes are. Secondly, what about the STS? It has 2 columns of LEDs, and the inner column is one row of LEDs that flash as a turn signal. I see no problem with either.

Beautiful Regal Cananopie... love the wheels, love the color combo... and I even like the spoiler

Elroy

Who exactly does Harry? Or is it random people?

Not to mention his outfit looked great tonight. [/paula] It wouldn't surprise me if the Plymouth brand was revived one day by DCX. I mean, you could have the trio back: Chrysler, entry-lux. Dodge, sport. Plymouth, economy.

Well, it may have a few reasons as to why that version isn't there. First of all, the DTS' Northstar doesn't even get 300hp, and it's the same car as the Lucerne. It's most potent engine is the 292hp version. Now, that might have something to do with the new SAE standards--maybe that knocked off 8hp from the 300?Also, wasn't the last gen Seville RWD? That might have something to do with it as well--I know the STS is RWD, but I'm not positive about the last gen Seville as I didn't pay too much attention to what was under the hood--despite the fact that I thought it was a gorgeous car. One more thing... the Northstar in the Lucerne may only have a 3hp advantage over the V6 in the ES350, but it also has a 43lb-ft torque advantage over the ES.

It's worse than you think: the ES has a standard 272hp V6.