Drew Dowdell

Well good!

That would be 112k miles. Its funny, I was thinking I should buy a diesel wagon during my drive to work this morning.

any updates?

I can't imagine why anyone would have bought one of these retail

and torque....

The dash surface area is very cheap feeling plastic similar to that in the old Pruis.

I was posting from my phone...

I would expect Impalas volume is going to drop significantly. They will dial back hard on the fleeting and price is going up. I'd guess them right in the 65k - 75k a year range... about what the Taurus does.

And Cadillac gets flak for the Escalade?

Torina was Zeta with weight chopped out. It was NOT an Alpha.

Isn't the 2.5 just a bigger 2.4? No. mostly new design.

Impalas diesel

No... They can't. Prior to the current camry, the platform was the same but revised each go round. The camry platform is Toyota's W-body. The current corolla is just cumulative MCEs going back to the mid-90s. Do we need to go into all the trouble Honda is in for half-assed redesigns? Work on the next Camry started before the current one was even unveiled. And what existing engines? The 2.5 is new, the 2.0t is heavily revised, only the 3.6 us carry over.

might depend on location. last I looked, I couldn't find a used one below 29k.

Sigma is too heavy (and to a degree, not flexible enough) Kappa wasn't flexible enough at all Zeta is too heavy The ATS is the first car to be released that the vast majority of the work was done post-BK. Nothing that you can drive today was started post BK. right back to the "It should not take this long!!!!" like a moth to a flame... ATS is here in 4 model years since BK. How much faster do you want it? I know... we can download it on our iPad.... 4 years for an entirely new car on and entirely new platform is lightning speed. I'm not sure that there are any other companies out there with that kind of schedule going... and to a degree that worries me about the ATS. Omega platform didn't get the green light till about 18 months after BK and we'll be seeing the beginnings of that in late 2013 (or we possibly could have already with the Ciel)

Hyper, some people around here seem to think that you simply download a whole new car/platform/engine/transmission like you would an iPhone app. "It should not take this long!!!" just shows ignorance of the process. There is a drop dead date going back about 4 years. That the ATS will be rolling into lots this summer is borderline miracle.

Fixed. The Montego was the mid-size Mercury wagon in '69. It was a joke. I like really big wagons.

not too bad for a mid-size wagon...

Pruis is a Toyota sub-brand now.

true... only the very early adopters would be ready for a second one yet. .... it is.... Insight, Prius C

What I'm confused about is why the advances in gasoline engine efficiency aren't trickling over to hybrids? Why are there no hybrids ( that I can think of) that have direct injection? Why are there no small displacement hybrids with turbos?

XTS I would think it late May early June, ATS is Augustish....

so... if I'm reading this article correctly... Lincoln is bragging that people have finally forgotten Continental and Mark VIII 8 years after they were killed.

Too small and not Zeta.

Why not? I like driving something that you don't see everyday...just sayin'. Cort | 38.m.IL | pigValve + paceMaker + cowValve | 5 MCs + 1 Caprice Classic CHD.MCs.CC + RoadTrips.hobbies.RadioShows.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort * rNw-CC+event: http://rdwhl-caprice...rd=whatsgoingon * "Loose your blues" __ Kenny Loggins __ 'Footloose' Because they are (to me) some of the best looking cars on the road when they are taken care of. Saw a gazillion old Tercels and Echos on the highway here in Toronto today.... who wants to look at that?