Drew Dowdell

Isn't the 2.5 just a bigger 2.4? No. mostly new design.

Impalas diesel

No... They can't. Prior to the current camry, the platform was the same but revised each go round. The camry platform is Toyota's W-body. The current corolla is just cumulative MCEs going back to the mid-90s. Do we need to go into all the trouble Honda is in for half-assed redesigns? Work on the next Camry started before the current one was even unveiled. And what existing engines? The 2.5 is new, the 2.0t is heavily revised, only the 3.6 us carry over.

might depend on location. last I looked, I couldn't find a used one below 29k.

Sigma is too heavy (and to a degree, not flexible enough) Kappa wasn't flexible enough at all Zeta is too heavy The ATS is the first car to be released that the vast majority of the work was done post-BK. Nothing that you can drive today was started post BK. right back to the "It should not take this long!!!!" like a moth to a flame... ATS is here in 4 model years since BK. How much faster do you want it? I know... we can download it on our iPad.... 4 years for an entirely new car on and entirely new platform is lightning speed. I'm not sure that there are any other companies out there with that kind of schedule going... and to a degree that worries me about the ATS. Omega platform didn't get the green light till about 18 months after BK and we'll be seeing the beginnings of that in late 2013 (or we possibly could have already with the Ciel)

Hyper, some people around here seem to think that you simply download a whole new car/platform/engine/transmission like you would an iPhone app. "It should not take this long!!!" just shows ignorance of the process. There is a drop dead date going back about 4 years. That the ATS will be rolling into lots this summer is borderline miracle.

Fixed. The Montego was the mid-size Mercury wagon in '69. It was a joke. I like really big wagons.

not too bad for a mid-size wagon...

Pruis is a Toyota sub-brand now.

true... only the very early adopters would be ready for a second one yet. .... it is.... Insight, Prius C

What I'm confused about is why the advances in gasoline engine efficiency aren't trickling over to hybrids? Why are there no hybrids ( that I can think of) that have direct injection? Why are there no small displacement hybrids with turbos?

XTS I would think it late May early June, ATS is Augustish....

so... if I'm reading this article correctly... Lincoln is bragging that people have finally forgotten Continental and Mark VIII 8 years after they were killed.

Too small and not Zeta.

Why not? I like driving something that you don't see everyday...just sayin'. Cort | 38.m.IL | pigValve + paceMaker + cowValve | 5 MCs + 1 Caprice Classic CHD.MCs.CC + RoadTrips.hobbies.RadioShows.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort * rNw-CC+event: http://rdwhl-caprice...rd=whatsgoingon * "Loose your blues" __ Kenny Loggins __ 'Footloose' Because they are (to me) some of the best looking cars on the road when they are taken care of. Saw a gazillion old Tercels and Echos on the highway here in Toronto today.... who wants to look at that?

Unfortunately, the styling is ruined by the weak transverse engine FWD platform that seems to result in short noses and short wheel to firewall distances. They could put an extra 6 inches between the wheels and firewall, but nooo....the XTS would look a lot better w/ a 117-120 inch wheelbase (more length ahead of the firewall) than a tiny 111 inch wheelbase. I could tolerate FWD vehicles more if it wasn't for the stubby noses. The MKS, LaCrosse, Impala, and countless other FWD models suffer from this design flaw. I, and 98% of the people who see the XTS within earshot of me, like the car style wise. There isn't anyone out there on the show floor with a measuring tape checking the wheel to door distance. It either looks good or it doesn't... that you don't like it is fine, but don't try to remove the choice for everyone else. It isn't a bland design. I personally find the MKS, RL, and S80 to all be bland designs... right along with the Genesis, GS, and M. Guess what... they all sell like crap no matter the distance between the wheel and the door. To put it yet another way... if RWD proportions were such a deciding factor for most buyers out there, the Chrysler 300C would be vastly outselling the Lexus ES. That won't be happening anytime soon. People buy the ES in droves... so clearly you're view on automotive styling doesn't apply to them.

Cadillac had multiple flagships in the 80s. The 80-85 Seville, the Allante, the 92+ Seville.... the Fleetwood Brougham. You may not have liked them, but they were still flagships.

First point is true, the XTS is another bridge, but GM has had that mentality for 30 years. Why didn't Cadillac start working on a flagship in the 80s when Lexus did with the LS400? Or why not in the early 2000s when they decided to launch Sigma? Cadillac needs to bring their future to the present ASAP. What segment wants a huge FWD luxury car? The 1,000 people that bought an MKS last month, most of which are all wheel drive, those few dozen non-fleet DTS buyers last year. There are only 3 front wheel drive cars with a base price over $40,000: the A6 2.0T, MKS and XTS. The MKS is still a suck of a car. The interior feels like a tarted up Taurus in each and every way. You can't compare the XTS to the MKS directly because the XTS has a substantially nicer interior. You're so hung up on the drive wheels + price that you forget there is a WHOLE lot more to a car than just that. All of the FWD high end Lux cars are out classed by the RWD cars right now.... but not for any reason that has to do with which wheels drive the car. It's all about the interior and looks. If RWD is the key to big sales, why are the GS, Infiniti M, Genesis all sucking eggs right now?

one more week of this....

Welcome Bill

On the front page/article system, all of the articles have the pictures embedded.

Yes, but they moved the weight closer to the center line of the car.

Because in the end...its still a Hyundai. It is suffering the same fate as the VW Phaeton. The genesis is ok inside, but the VW was even nicer and could be had with a W12.

well... they improved the weight distribution a bit....

All GM needs to do is look at the take rate for AWD on the Lacrosse. On the Impala, it would probably be even lower.