Drew Dowdell

Cadillac trademarked the CTx lineup before Johan got there.... so as much as we want to blame the naming mess on him (and believe me, I'd like to), it wasn't his doing unless he was freelancing at Cadillac on his days off from Infiniti. There is virtually zero of Johan's decisions in the CT6 final product. He didn't get there soon enough to effect any change on the car. As someone (I think Hyper) mentioned, this is mostly Mark's car. SMK: You are always worried about the "how" rather than the results. The Equus is a fat pig. It weighs 900lbs more than the CT6. The 2014 Equus has a 6.4 second 0-60 time.... same as a Buick Regal GS. The Cadillac CTS 2.0T AWD has a 0-60 time of 5.8 second, so the lighter and RWD CT6 will do a few 10ths better than that. So tell me, why is embarrassing for Cadillac to be running the CT6 with a Turbo-4 and it is NOT embarrassing for a Hyundai with a 420hp V8 to be running soooo much slower. Oh I get it.... it's fine for a 420hp car to be lower than a Turbo-4 as long as it has a V8.

That's a very heavy handed and a stark insinuation. Everyone who has posted reservations has posted elsewhere where they like Cadillac. So I don't think you're going to get anywhere with making a comment like that. There are certain people, like SMK, who wouldn't even like Cadillac if it was just an S-Class with the star scraped off and a crest put in its place. They'd would still find something "wrong" with it... some "Most important thing" that makes the Cadillac inferior even if it is the same car. SMK's feet get awfully tired from running around moving the goal posts.

E-class "ain't world class" compared to the S-class, either. But neither the E or the CT6 are going up against the s-class, are they. It seems that the E-class is getting the same interior the S-class has. We shall find out in January. ... and C-Class. Same sausage, different lengths.

The Edge has improved so much that it really does deserve those increase in ATPs. Explorer has improved an equal amount and deserves an equal increase, but it may be harder for people to stomach that much of an increase at those prices.

How many times are people going to re-write the same list of cars??

The CT6 is not a stop gap. It may not be a stop gap, but Johan did say the CT6 is NOT the halo car that Cadillac needs it to be either, something the previous brass said that the CT6 WAS the halo car that the world was waiting for... Bankruptcy had a play in that and Johan being brought in to really make Cadillac top tier aside...the way SMK describes the situation over at Cadillac is eerily accurate. The thing is, none of that is new. We knew that the CT6 was not going to be the top Caddy before any of us here even saw it. Johan said as much before it was revealed. Why is any of this news to anyone here?

There are multiple engine options, and 3.0L is top choice. Not unlike the CT6. It would be foolish otherwise for both brands. Interesting..... so now I'm going to guess. Base - 2.3 EB Mid - 3.5 NA Top - 3.0TT and possibly a hybrid.

The CT6 is not a stop gap.

I think part of the issue is referring to all of those vehicles as "models" They aren't models... they are trims and body styles. The Germans are by far the worst in this with BMW being the most absurd. It was an article I had intended to write last year but work took precedence. I went back and looked at my notes. If you go buy what BMW considers a unique model, they have 98 (!!!) models in their lineup (as of December 2014)... but that's because they consider the 28 variants of the 3/4 series to all be unique models. .... as a matter of fact, maybe I should finish that article.

Any more fighting beyond this point and I'm just going to close the thread and delete everything after this post.

I am highly encouraged to see the public reacting so positively to the new XC90. It is one of the most deserving of attention of new vehicles out there.

Just. Let. It. Go!

Due to the speed with which some of the trolling and abuse is going on, I sometimes forget to check the "Edited By:" button when modifying some posts. Regular users cannot edit their own post without the Edited note showing up. If a user edits their own post, it will say so. An Admin or Mod are the only people who can silently edit a post. That said... I wish you all would just chill out.

These are just some insane sales growth numbers for such a small company.

Moving in the right direction, but I don't think their lineup is enough to sustain them.

GLA and CLA hit the ceiling already? E-Class being up is cheap lease deals to move the last of the current model... I'm seeing lots of ads for it.

Wow... who pulled the plug on Mini? And this is bad for BMW, over 6% down in an overall strong month?

All three of the big three are in an incentive war in the truck department right now (Except the Canyonado) Incentives on the F-150 are just a cost of doing business when both of the main competitors are doing the same thing.

Cadillac has a bunch of new product in the pipeline... the list I made earlier was only my own hypothetical. The only one that has been discussed by GM people so far is the CT8.

What the heck happened to the Fit? Every Fit buyer moved over to HR-V?

I think they'll do better than that. They sell 2k XTSes a month now and they're not all base models. Even a mid-range FWD XTS is $54k.

I'm wonder if that is due to the updated 2016 models hitting dealers or lots of incentives on the 2015 models. The updates are borderline invisible to people who aren't car nuts... I can't imagine the updates having any affect on sales.

As long as I can set the MRC to "marshmallow" I'll be fine.

Overall good month. Infiniti getting some traction, though mostly with an old G-series hatchback and a rebadged Nissan.