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God this fence is such a waste of money. I don't understand the recent anti-immigrant stance of people in this country anyway.

This is way overdue... tariffs are ugly and hurt everyone (except in very specific situations).

I thought Opel said Zeta was too big for them?

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It's $45,000 fully loaded? How much is the Enclave going to cost?

I bet the Chevy Lambda SUV will be built there, along with TE and maybe Zeta.

I don't like the front; the lights look squashed and the tilted-forward look is bizarre. The back is alright, but the lights are too high and it looks out of proportion. The profile looks nice. Where's the interior?

2001 Saab 9-5 Aero - bought in early August of this year.

I don't think it's that ugly really (certainly lacking refinement and details), but you know just by looking at it that it WREAKS OF CHEAP.

Yep. Lutz said it would have taken 3 years to modify this design to meet US requirements, so they might as well just wait for the next gen.

Why don't you want a new car?

'Twas on the floor at LA: This is the first time I've seen it anyway...

That was classic! It sorta makes me want to steal more games...

She's the lead designer? She looks really young. I thought the designer was Simon Cox (designed the VX Lightning)?

I think banning it is ridiculous... if people want to pay more for natural stuff they are by all means welcome, but the decision to gorge yourself on heart clogging fatty foods is your own prerogative.

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I think it looks pretty cool actually, but I am not ever buying a truck.

I'm gonna guess something French...

Sweet, that looks awesome. I have a feeling the next Accord will be seriously good, and the Malibu will be left in the dust before it gets off the ground.

LONDON - The level of violence in Iraq is "much worse" than that of Lebanon's civil war, outgoing U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan said in an interview aired Monday. Speaking to the British Broadcasting Corp., Annan agreed that the average Iraqi's life is worse now than it was under Saddam Hussein and called the situation in the country "extremely dangerous." "Given the level of violence, the level of killing and bitterness and the way that forces are arranged against each other, a few years ago, when we had the strife in Lebanon and other places, we called that a civil war; this is much worse," Annan said. Last week, when asked by reporters whether the fighting in Iraq could be considered a civil war, Annan said "almost." "I think given the developments on the ground, unless something is done drastically and urgently to arrest the deteriorating situation, we could be there. In fact we are almost there," he said last week. In the BBC interview, Annan agreed when it was suggested that some Iraqis believe life is worse now than it was under Saddam Hussein's regime. 'They could go out' under Saddam "I think they are right in the sense of the average Iraqi's life," Annan said. "If I were an average Iraqi obviously I would make the same comparison, that they had a dictator who was brutal but they had their streets, they could go out, their kids could go to school and come back home without a mother or father worrying, 'Am I going to see my child again?'" he said. "And the Iraqi government has not been able to bring the violence under control. The society needs security and a secure environment for it to get on — without security not much can be done — not recovery or reconstruction," Annan added. He urged the international community to help rebuild the country, saying he was not sure Iraq could do it on its own.

The Cobalt really needs that refresh...

I thought the Ultra V8 was cancelled in favor of a redesigned Northstar?

Isolated bilateral trading shortfalls are completely irrelevent.

I think this looks fantastic--motoring in the future is going to be sweet.

Fabulous car.