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I converted to a GM fan shortly before they decided to kill Oldsmobile. Prior to that I was, and to the most part still am, a fan of Pre-Ford Volvos. The 240s, 740s, 122, 1800s, etc are great cars. Oldsmobile caught my attention in the late 90s with the Intrigue and Silhoutte (great vehicle that wasn't kept competitive).

I love the 70's Custom Cruisers. I have some ads from the curved dash (though not scanned in). I'll see about getting them scanned in for viewing this weekend.

I'm not at all suprised Saturn is in last place with Chevrolet not far behind. With the new products not effecting either brand line until next year or the year after, I don't expect either to do so hot until then. New products are 90% of the time the winners for such reports. That's what keeps most of the foreign products on top (more newer products more often)

I saw the teaser to that. When did it air?

D-Ham = More Kappas :) Or one could hope.

Love that dash, though I was hoping for something more exciting with the rear seats.

So unlike what toyota is telling the press, what we notice is the scion lineup is made for the elderly. My Grandmother liked the xa because it had nice flat seats that where soft like a Buick. :)

I couldn't agree with this line more. Especially in the NW.

1. Best looking current Buick vehicle Lucerne 2. Worst looking current Buick vehicle Terraza 3. The most bland looking Buick vehicle Century 4. Best looking current Cadillac vehicle XLR 5. Worst looking current Cadillac vehicle DTS 6. The most bland looking Cadillac vehicle DTS 7. Best looking current Chevrolet vehicle HHR / SSR (Not the Corvette only because it's the obvious choice) 8. Worst looking current Chevrolet vehicle Aveo / Uplander (a tie) 9. The most bland looking Chevrolet vehicle Classic / Malibu (both new and old versions) 10. Best looking current Pontiac vehicle G6 Coupe (Not the Solstice only because it's the obvious choice) 11. Worst looking current Pontiac vehicle SV6 12. The most bland looking Pontiac vehicle Base Grand Prix 13. Best looking current Saturn vehicle Sky & Aura 14. Worst looking current Saturn vehicle Ion 15. The most bland looking Saturn vehicle Ion

As much as I hate the horrible Saturn Dealers service, I'd convert to Saturn for the Astra Coupe.

Having been an owner of 2 Intrigues and 1 Alero I know they don't have the right seats have suspension for "older" people. My Parents & Grandmother traded in the Alero they bought from us because the suspension and seats where to hard. As far as who drives them - My wife and I have noticed mostly younger (25 to 45) females.

Sad but expected.

So we do have hope of GM bringing us some of those great gas mileage diesel engines.

Jeep seems to have terrible timing. Daimler should have spent the money on Jeep back in the day that people wanted SUVs.

Location within the country would also dictate what WT people drive. I see more trashed civics with people smoking in them than anything else. For the record; I consider the smoking piece a huge part of being WT. There's nothing like having the cash to purchase your cigs & beer, but having to use food stamps for your steaks and prime rib.

They did add some great picture this year.

So far only 2 cars hit their execution and name right to be held, atleast if we where the board of GM. I do disagree with those that voted for the G6. That is one name GM will probably keep for a while, as the car is right, and the name fits then new image Pontiac is going for.

You must have missed my point about the white part. WT is not about color, but about stupidity.

Funny, I see older men driving Centurys but I don't see many older women.

Funny it seems to be any of the new mini-van, oh crossovers, are obvious replacements.

No, just misprint.

Buick isn't the time of car auto writers are going to like. Who cares, as long as Buick lovers love it. It'll still sell well as shown by the LaCrosses success.

GM has always done things to attract women. Heck, they're the only ones that basically designed a whole division around such (Saturn).

It was so hard to pick, as I would pick any of the latest minivan names to be dropped.

It doesn't look much different, but a quick play around the website and one will notice the difference.