Sixty8panther

Intersting.... I'm tempted to call "shenanigans!"

Chris: I can duct tape a piece of cat-turd to a solid-fuel rocket and make it go faster than Mary-lou's 5.0 Mustang, that does not make it a better for of vehicular transport. :wink: Seriously though: Most of the Hondas that run 11s get 6.5 MPG and cost twice as much to build up as a Chevy 350 powered car weighing 400 more lbs., so what the hell is the point of having a raspy little 4-banger that is constantly trying to kill itself at 8000RPM and often times DOES? seriously Why do people still act like it's a big deal that a Honda can whipp an old school Camaro/GTO or whatever, it's been done. At the end of the day the Hodnda comands no respect outside of it's speed, it's still a $h!box meant to get groceries.

Genuis idea for Honda to score more easy money off ignorant fools: 1. Slap ACURA emblems on all existing generators, motorcycles, ATVs etc. 2. Jack up price 35% 3. Laugh all the way to the bank. /kidding (sort of)

LOL, I love the Simpsons. "MY CAT'S BREATH SMELLS LIKE CATFOOD" -R.W.

For every ONE riced out J-body (or GM-anything for that matter) there are about two dozen Japanese cars, 1/2 of them Hon-duh. At least in Massachusetts & for that matter most other places I have traveled in and out of N.E. Just ask XP, or better yet, DF. DodgeF lives just about 3/4 of a mile from the epi-center of the New England ricer capital. I bet at least one of his neighbors has exactly the car I described. The Autozones in this area stay well stocked on "kustom" Type-R seat covers, LED-encrusted coffee can exhaust tips & faux-carbon-fibre shifter knobs that are cast from white-metal and actaully weigh about 12 oz. I mildly "riced out" the old Datsun as a joke, I was going to go all out and try to sell it to some crazy inner city youth for some ungoddly amount of money, you know, his grandmother's entire inheritance... or better yet a '96 Fleetwood Brougham that some mexican ALMOST cut up into a lowrider but then got bored w/ it before the project ever began.

WRONG. 1. If the Camaro had been a hardtop I'd have 100% def. bought one. Not certain now, but hell, the window regulators, glass & 95% of the rest of the conversion will be available directly through GM when the ractop hits dealers...albeit expensive, so I might still buy one, or... if and when we're doing better financially I think Julie woul love a small to midsize car, she loves the Benz & maybe I can "sell her" a I4 turbo or V6 Camaro. Then I'd still be throwing GM a bone & she'd be happy. 2. I most certainly DO NOT want it to be 1970. If anything more like 1968, or even 1963. Either way we are NOT going about building cars in the best manner possible... I willl argue that to the death. If you think there are not hundreds of inexcusable problems with today's vehicles that were NOT existant in 1970, or 68 or 59.... then you are not being realistic. I just want a happy medium, a few more cars built for the coniseurs like myself. I am NOT alone. More & more I see guys my age and youner who are turned off by ANYTING in a new car showroom (esp. considering the price) because their dad, grandfather, mom, godparent, neighbor or whoEVER introdiced them to the finer world of classic cars. I was very alone in this back in 1993-1997 (high school years) but even then a very smart articulate & friendly kid, rich but not snob, saved up his money form his part time job and with a lot of dad's help, financial and time wise, they did a quick restoration on a '67 Pontiac GTO, w/ a non-matching (W.F. cares when you're 16y.o.) and painted it what he called "midnight purple" and guess what? That car was reliable, more fun than a parking lot of S2000s and it probably got him more pu$$y than a women's RR toilet seat. I WILL buy a new car when I can either afford to buy one that is currently WORTH BUYING! (CLK500? CTS-V coupe?) OR when GM gets a fu&&ing clue and build a car that I want, not some over the top pipe dream but something FUN, traditional, aesthetically and mechnically PURE and affordable. Does it have to be a hardtop? not neccesarily but the Camaro's HT roof was too much of a tease to buy one and not sawzall the B-pillar out. The door glass is already frameless, so you're good to go there, strip out the backseat area, cut out B-pillar, install the convertibles's rear windows and integrate a channel into the window opening for the ragtop's top weatherstripping. Then bite I'd probably intergrate a rollcage hidden under the headliner, a/c-pillar plastic trim and strengthen the rear 1/4 panel to make the backseat into a safe structure durring a nasty T-bone. OR.... GM could do it and take all the credit while getting praise form the enthusiasts for building a car that lights up people's imaginations. non-hartop I'd buy new? How about a compact, RWD econobox 2dr, 4dr & wagon along the lines of the classic 1960s & 1970s BMW 2002? Why will then not let Pontiac build something liek this already!? Rear pop-out windows ala-the Bimmer would be excusable since the rear 1/4 area woudn't be able to swallow the rear-side glass anyway... give it the option of a REAL manual trans. and I bet my freekin' life it would sell like hotcakes! We need to gather up all the "safety Nazis" with giant butterfly nets and ship 'em to an island far-faaaaar away.

Why can't you kayak in the rain? Isn't it a water-sport? (save the golden shower jokes peanut gallery)

If you have a few min. to read: http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/19842304.html

Twix is good stuff too, and Kit Kats. Us Europeans LOVE chocolate, but the good stuff is EXPENSIVE in the USA.

Mercedes' 1955 300SL "gullwing" is def. one of the most beautiful cars in the world & with those doors is one of just a handfull of post- war sports/luxury/performance cars that has a good reason to have B-pillars. Not talking about Corollas & Tauruses I mean amongst collectible enthusiasts' cars. I hope I see a new gullwing in Mercedes Benz showrooms soon... & not some McLaren SLR over the top exotic no one can aspire to afford even if they win $5,000,000 in the lottery, I mean V6 &/or V8 cylinder car costing $50-70K.

for the Liberals out there who do NOT drive 4-cyilnder economy cars but instead big SUVs or low-MPG cars & are pissing & moaning over the current theivery going on at the pump... Think back to the 2000 election, do you even REMEMBER what Al Gore said about oil/fuel prices? He said a great way to finally kill internal combustio and rid ourselves of global warming would be to raise the price of oil & gas, IIRC he even specifically said $4.00/gallon! Wish I had time to find a quote from his campaign trail. Meantime, chew over this: http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2000/july00/00-07-05.shtml

If O.B. approves than it can't be wrong. Just like with 'em Unibody Fuselage Mopars! That was so funny, and the beat-to-$h! F150 crash so enjoyable I think on my lunch break I will go out and buy a crate of Snickers. These commercials are making me a big snickers fan... I already love the stuff anyway. Yay for consumerism.

We keep hearing half-a$$ed news about this... what's the deal? Heres something that popped up on Google today: Not bad, but I like that other silver one (chop) I posted a few months ago better. This is allso pretty cool but too much Porsche 911 dna.

The only damn SAAB in human history that is not cramped already is a damn Trailblazer-clone. I would have killed this useless brand like 20-times over before even considering a quick and idiotic euthanasia of Oldsmobile.

I've said it like twice a day on this forum, this is just 1974 take II.

Best of luck. That sucks. I was robbed last Feb. but I was lucky to not sustain any injury.... the $h!bag had a 9mm and was driving a mint 2003-up Impala LS! (prob. stolen?)

Camino: agreed. This thing looks more sinister than any hemi-powered ANYTHING in all history! (xcept a tank ) moonroof: glass panel pop-up and usually slides back as well sunroof: solid, non-translucent (usually metal) panel that opens in various ways

V-tec powah, yo! That $h! will rev to like 9500 rpm and lift the front wheels off the ground!!! ....and the whistles go "wooooooooopppp!"

I would tattoo a Genesis on my chest before ever buying a new Acura. And if it was such a great product wouldn't it be called: ACCURA!?!?!? I think I spell 'bout as well as a person with half my IQ.... I suck at typing too and my brain is always ahead of my fingers, not to mention my first language is Slovakian which I can spell perfe tly since its... waddayacallit.... PHONETIC!

Yeah... the irony is in these parts the average '87 G-body that sells for under $5,000 is more beat &/or rotted than the typical '60s car I've owned. Seriously. I did, back in 02, come |this| close to buying a ultra-clean 305 powered 1986 Pontiac Grand Prix T-top... it had the X-treme S10 rims on it, they actually looked alright, and the ONLY reason I did not drop down the $3500 o.b.o. on that clean as a whistle '86 GP was because I found/bought myself a bitchin, cosmetically-trashed but very solid 1968 Camaro hardtop with a 377-hp ZZ3 - 350 for only $5000! That I do NOT regret.

What now? I hope it's a '71 boattail Riv or a '59 some-thing-or-other

$84 barrel = well under $3/gallon national average at the pump... right?

Juvenile I may be but compromise my standars I will not. I had almost, but not quite a Audi/Infiniti level of respect for some Acuras in the past, but I really have lost 95% of it over the years... they're just tarted up Honda sedan and coupe $h!piles now, nothing else. Equally priced 3-ser. Bimmer and G8 are so much more car than this (ugly styling aside) that it is like comparing the AMG E-class and Cadillac V-series to a Taurus SHO. Okay, that's a bit harsh but not by much. The F$%&ng products at Honda have been DE-evolving and no one seems to mind, in fact the price keeps going up as the cars get "dummed down" and get closer to a high end Hyundai than any non-VW German car, or for that matter even a damn FWD Volvo or Opel.

At 29 yo I now drink more caffene in one week than I did in an average YEAR prior to my 27th birthday. I get nasty chest pains & rapid heart rate form too much caffene, so this is bad.

Well I for one think Acuras are for Nerds, Wrinkled baby-boomers & momma's boys. After they own them for a few years (or lease) it becomes a "hand me down" for a high school or college kid and after that it goes to some inner city dope with a taste for hennesey and "GANGSTA" tatoos. It is at this point that the car becomes even MORE unappealing when it receives a few gross scars like perhaps a crunched hood and plastic over its broken window. Then it gets 2 coils cut out of its alrady tired springs, and subsequently the entire undercarriage, oil & trans pans & gas tank get scratched up as sparks fly when the car goes over any & all (even minor) potholes & manhole covers. Of course a all this is complemented by a 2 foot tall decklid "Red Barron" spoiler, 20" rims with gawwwd-awful styling & a body kit that is mostly just cheap injection molded PVC that gets dry-wall screwed to the squishy & rusty rocker panels. I'll stop now...