Sixty8panther

some cars look fantastic with tinted windows, I think 1990s 7-series BMWs (esp. the Ls) look great in all black with black-BBS rims and tinted windows, but I do not think I would ever tint the windows of any hardtop, esp. not one with this amount of presance, weather with the windows down or up... Also a bark blue/maroon/gray 96 Caprice Classic w/ the 9c1 package and spotlights looks awesome with blackout tint... Mass State trooper style. --- Moltar: Your buddy had an AMG SEC? damn. The 560SEC was a car that, in the late 1980s, was capable of 0-62mph in 5.7 sec, and that was with the same high geared rear end that carried it to 180+ mph while retaining streetability with a big trunk & relatively big back seat! Now as for my car's 228~ horsepower keep in mind this is 1984. A Mustang GT w/ a (4.9liter) "5.0" put out 145 hp while only giving up 1 (one) cubic inch to our '84 Mercedes. The just introduced Corvette that took the world by storm was powered by the cross-fire 350 that had 47 extra cubic inches, that's almost a liter, and it put out a meere 205 hp. This was a dark era. If you were shopping for an economy car in 1984 the fact of the matter was you were looking at 2-digit horsepower #s. Some of those "peppy" cars had 60, 70, 80 horsepower motors, they keep up with today's 130hp econoboxes because of their lower weight.

Have you heard of sarcasm? ...did you take the 7.45 sec. time seriously too? I know it takes extra round-'bout weight to reinforce the lack of a direct up & down pillar. 4200 lbs. is a bit of an exageration Moltar.

tint the windows on a hardtop!? NO THANKS! USA spec. cars were rated at 184 hp @ 4500 rpm and 247 lbs./ft. at 2000 rpm. However this car left the factory in Germany bound for the Autobahn with 44bhp more! (228 bph total) however our car was fitted with the catalitic converter from a local dealership as a part of the mandatory importation process... But you know N.E. roads being what they are I just might hit a pothole and damage the cat. bad enough to have to replace it with.... ummm, I've said too much already...!

Yeah, the CTS-V is a car capable of sharing magazine pages with M-Bimmers and AMG Benzes... not exactly the same price range as the Camaro. That's like saying I'm a slow runner because it takes me 30 seconds longer to run the Boston Marathon than that crazy guy from Kenya who's won a bunch of times. I bet Jessie Owens would kick my butt in the 100m too! ---h, and if they just eliminated those BULKY B-pillars that $h! would lap the 'RING in like 7.45

Yeah the H-body never did it for me... I grew up loving the looks of the all-American 3800-powered LeSabre & lusting after tripple black Bonneville SSEis but after workign at the dealership for a while I lost interest in any & all FWD cars that try to pass themselves off as big, comfortable or luxurious. But as a 15 year old kid back in 1994 I almost talked my parents into buying a slightly used '92 Park Ave, it was to my young teenage eyes way cooler than the Pontiac Sunbird they ended up buying. 3800 V6 always > 2.0 liter four cylinder

It's all about those pointy "surfboard shaped" fenders that protrude forward proudly like a revolutionary minuteman carying the stars and stripes through gunpowder smoke & flying bullets. My '62 was such a fun car, that thing hauled donkey like a 5.0 Mustang..... it had true duals & a nasty carburator (considering the 198's six small cylinders). Ideally I'd really want a 2dr hardtop or wagon but this one cheap Skylark sedan I mentioned just might be too good to pass up.... we'll see if he astill has it in a few weeks if and when I'm ready to sell the RoadmOnster.

1. Hedge funders 2. Communists in Venezualia 3. Middle Eastern Shieks 4. Greedy executives at Mobil-Exxon... Just because I'm addicted to internal combustion via large displacement eight cylinder motors of 5, 6, even 7.5 liters does NOT mean I have to be on good terms with my "dealer"... When oil prices come back down to what can be called "high but realistic" from the current 250% inflation in just a few short years, say $2.50/gal (hpe springs eternal) the first thing I'm going to do will be to buy a Cadillac ('70 eldo razor?) with a 500 inch ironblock. Here's hoping.

Oh man I was jut exagerating for effect but it's actaully TRUE!!! And yes, Honda could make a "HotSteamingPileofDogPoo Si" and many articles would be written about how biodegradable it is, how it has a low carbon footprint and drew inspiration from both mans best friend and mother nature. Also it gets infinity for MPG. The Outlook - Pilot comparison is like comparing Beethoven to "Cheap Trick".

Agreed, the Ridgeline (and just as much the new 09 Pilot) are EPIC_FAIL in the stylng dept.

Agreed, the Ridgeline (and just as much the new 09 Pilot) are EPIC_FAIL in the stylng dept.

Made during an era when "Made in Japan" was known to mean the product was a cheap hunk of crap.

Someday I'll get a 1959 "Opel by Buick" and keep it in the LeSabre's trunk in case my H2o pump blows again or I run out of gas, that way I can hop in the Kaddet and fly down to NAPA/Autozone for whatever I need, then just park it back under the trunklid.

The only one that is a REAL concern is the steering wheel, and last time I checked collapsible steering wheels add like 0.5 lbs. to the car's LBS. I can do without the rest, esp. ugly bulky B-pillars & computer control.

I miss this car sooooo much I've been thinking about getting another one. There's a 215 powered one, gold 4dr skylark. Needs some work but the guy is only asking $700! Needs title (I can push the right pencils) and supposedly runs but needs a few odds and ends, the kid selling it is very confused but either way I think I'll keep his number and go look at it when I have a few free hours & $50 of gas to blow on a mini road trip.

I voted "hot chicks" but really what I meant by that was Japanese Anime Porn. Anyone wanna see a robot with 30 silicone d!$ks &@#$% a Japanese catholic school girl while tubgirl gives a blumpkin to a mad scientist all while a bunch of Japanese businessmen whack it to a tampon commercial....? Now THERE's a topic that is hard to discuss, why is it that so many people "respect" the Japanese culture? That country is messed up!

Very true.

About two years ago XP and I went to look at a 1959 Buick that was posted in the WantAd just a few towns away... rotted pretty bad, sitting in a small forest of weeds next to a big garage along with some wacky crap like a 85? Impala 2-door diesel, sky blue/ blue cloth, two VERY high milage LT-1 powered Roadmasters & one Fleetwood Brougham. Inside the big garage was a $hitload of Buick & Cadillac motors & parts along with Two 1940 Buicks, one parts car sand one mid-restoration, and a very clean & sleek looking 1987 Buick Regal that was powered by a Cadillac 500 with all the work done with love and care, not some redneck hack-job! That was the coolest "hot rodded", naturally aspired G-body I've ever seen. The guy made everything fit correctly & look professionally including a few custom suspension pieces like a hand made sway bar.... The B-59 was a 2-dr hardtop Invicta but it was pretty much a VERY ambitious restoration or a 85% complete parts car.

How many times i recent history has a manufacturer REALLY tried it? The PT Cruiser and Explorer were all "long shots" before they made a killing for Chrysler & Ford.

I bet if GM built MORE cars on the FWD W-body chassis and imported a ton of FWD Saab-esque cars here from Europe they would be selling cars like hotcakes! Esp. with how well SAAB & Saturn do in terms of profit margins. RRRRakin' in the dough.

It's a reoccurring topic around here... and several members agree.... not to mentions the "strippers" article in R&T a few months back, and potential Scion owners who were led to believe that was EXACTLY what the Scion brand was going to be about. Body in white/gray steel wheels, crank windows, radio delete etc. that was the original Scion lineup "concept", a cheap little econobox, a la carte

TED KENNEDY HAS BAD HAIR! And he has a nasty case of halitosis... not to mention he likes to drink breastmilk from T.V. Cambodian crackwhores! Does that constitute a slugfest?

Well, since we're on the topic I for one, will never live in California for all those reasons and because my dad's been saying for years it's going to sink into the Pacific ocean, even though that will probably take another 400,000 years or whatever... Bush is a crappy Republican, Ahh-nold is in bed with the Kennedys: they're like the Epicenter of the liberal hypocracy. Still even though he's not allowed to become prez. I'd vote for him over Osama or McAmnesty.

Sebring.... makes me think of the US "Office" when Dwight thinks he got MIchael demoted. LOL

Yeah, that Acura is ugly enough to be in the sequal to "The Sixth Day" w/out Schwarzenegger, smaller buget.

You mean make a REAL Mercury Marauder? Instead of that "Grand Marquis GT" from a few years back...?