Sixty8panther

Yeah, the CTS-V is a car capable of sharing magazine pages with M-Bimmers and AMG Benzes... not exactly the same price range as the Camaro. That's like saying I'm a slow runner because it takes me 30 seconds longer to run the Boston Marathon than that crazy guy from Kenya who's won a bunch of times. I bet Jessie Owens would kick my butt in the 100m too! ---h, and if they just eliminated those BULKY B-pillars that $h! would lap the 'RING in like 7.45

Yeah the H-body never did it for me... I grew up loving the looks of the all-American 3800-powered LeSabre & lusting after tripple black Bonneville SSEis but after workign at the dealership for a while I lost interest in any & all FWD cars that try to pass themselves off as big, comfortable or luxurious. But as a 15 year old kid back in 1994 I almost talked my parents into buying a slightly used '92 Park Ave, it was to my young teenage eyes way cooler than the Pontiac Sunbird they ended up buying. 3800 V6 always > 2.0 liter four cylinder

It's all about those pointy "surfboard shaped" fenders that protrude forward proudly like a revolutionary minuteman carying the stars and stripes through gunpowder smoke & flying bullets. My '62 was such a fun car, that thing hauled donkey like a 5.0 Mustang..... it had true duals & a nasty carburator (considering the 198's six small cylinders). Ideally I'd really want a 2dr hardtop or wagon but this one cheap Skylark sedan I mentioned just might be too good to pass up.... we'll see if he astill has it in a few weeks if and when I'm ready to sell the RoadmOnster.

1. Hedge funders 2. Communists in Venezualia 3. Middle Eastern Shieks 4. Greedy executives at Mobil-Exxon... Just because I'm addicted to internal combustion via large displacement eight cylinder motors of 5, 6, even 7.5 liters does NOT mean I have to be on good terms with my "dealer"... When oil prices come back down to what can be called "high but realistic" from the current 250% inflation in just a few short years, say $2.50/gal (hpe springs eternal) the first thing I'm going to do will be to buy a Cadillac ('70 eldo razor?) with a 500 inch ironblock. Here's hoping.

Oh man I was jut exagerating for effect but it's actaully TRUE!!! And yes, Honda could make a "HotSteamingPileofDogPoo Si" and many articles would be written about how biodegradable it is, how it has a low carbon footprint and drew inspiration from both mans best friend and mother nature. Also it gets infinity for MPG. The Outlook - Pilot comparison is like comparing Beethoven to "Cheap Trick".

Agreed, the Ridgeline (and just as much the new 09 Pilot) are EPIC_FAIL in the stylng dept.

Agreed, the Ridgeline (and just as much the new 09 Pilot) are EPIC_FAIL in the stylng dept.

Made during an era when "Made in Japan" was known to mean the product was a cheap hunk of crap.

Someday I'll get a 1959 "Opel by Buick" and keep it in the LeSabre's trunk in case my H2o pump blows again or I run out of gas, that way I can hop in the Kaddet and fly down to NAPA/Autozone for whatever I need, then just park it back under the trunklid.

The only one that is a REAL concern is the steering wheel, and last time I checked collapsible steering wheels add like 0.5 lbs. to the car's LBS. I can do without the rest, esp. ugly bulky B-pillars & computer control.

I miss this car sooooo much I've been thinking about getting another one. There's a 215 powered one, gold 4dr skylark. Needs some work but the guy is only asking $700! Needs title (I can push the right pencils) and supposedly runs but needs a few odds and ends, the kid selling it is very confused but either way I think I'll keep his number and go look at it when I have a few free hours & $50 of gas to blow on a mini road trip.

I voted "hot chicks" but really what I meant by that was Japanese Anime Porn. Anyone wanna see a robot with 30 silicone d!$ks &@#$% a Japanese catholic school girl while tubgirl gives a blumpkin to a mad scientist all while a bunch of Japanese businessmen whack it to a tampon commercial....? Now THERE's a topic that is hard to discuss, why is it that so many people "respect" the Japanese culture? That country is messed up!

Very true.

About two years ago XP and I went to look at a 1959 Buick that was posted in the WantAd just a few towns away... rotted pretty bad, sitting in a small forest of weeds next to a big garage along with some wacky crap like a 85? Impala 2-door diesel, sky blue/ blue cloth, two VERY high milage LT-1 powered Roadmasters & one Fleetwood Brougham. Inside the big garage was a $hitload of Buick & Cadillac motors & parts along with Two 1940 Buicks, one parts car sand one mid-restoration, and a very clean & sleek looking 1987 Buick Regal that was powered by a Cadillac 500 with all the work done with love and care, not some redneck hack-job! That was the coolest "hot rodded", naturally aspired G-body I've ever seen. The guy made everything fit correctly & look professionally including a few custom suspension pieces like a hand made sway bar.... The B-59 was a 2-dr hardtop Invicta but it was pretty much a VERY ambitious restoration or a 85% complete parts car.

How many times i recent history has a manufacturer REALLY tried it? The PT Cruiser and Explorer were all "long shots" before they made a killing for Chrysler & Ford.

I bet if GM built MORE cars on the FWD W-body chassis and imported a ton of FWD Saab-esque cars here from Europe they would be selling cars like hotcakes! Esp. with how well SAAB & Saturn do in terms of profit margins. RRRRakin' in the dough.

It's a reoccurring topic around here... and several members agree.... not to mentions the "strippers" article in R&T a few months back, and potential Scion owners who were led to believe that was EXACTLY what the Scion brand was going to be about. Body in white/gray steel wheels, crank windows, radio delete etc. that was the original Scion lineup "concept", a cheap little econobox, a la carte

TED KENNEDY HAS BAD HAIR! And he has a nasty case of halitosis... not to mention he likes to drink breastmilk from T.V. Cambodian crackwhores! Does that constitute a slugfest?

Well, since we're on the topic I for one, will never live in California for all those reasons and because my dad's been saying for years it's going to sink into the Pacific ocean, even though that will probably take another 400,000 years or whatever... Bush is a crappy Republican, Ahh-nold is in bed with the Kennedys: they're like the Epicenter of the liberal hypocracy. Still even though he's not allowed to become prez. I'd vote for him over Osama or McAmnesty.

Sebring.... makes me think of the US "Office" when Dwight thinks he got MIchael demoted. LOL

Yeah, that Acura is ugly enough to be in the sequal to "The Sixth Day" w/out Schwarzenegger, smaller buget.

You mean make a REAL Mercury Marauder? Instead of that "Grand Marquis GT" from a few years back...?

yes indeed it's a 4-auto. Pretty smooth for a non-GM trans. Definitely WAY better than the Ansin(sp?) in the '97 Q45 And yes, if I could I'd drop her down a bit, Julie would probably approve if it was not a waste of money. Also, a cheap set of 18-20" rims would look wicked BOSS on this 8-cylinder pillar-less hardtop. Now it's time for MORE photos: I think this car has proportions like Jessica Rabbit. Esp. from profile. I'm thinking about putting a hood ornament on it... probably not the MB star, people do it but it's redundant, there's a Benz running around here with the '55 SL300 size emblem in the grille like mine, a hood ornament & a chrome plated license plate with a chrome emblem on it. I was thinking about something elegant & minimalist, perhaps a modern take on the Dusenberg arrow. Here's one more for now... I need to take some better pictures in more interesting surroundings. I personally like the one piece panel, plus I've only seen like three 126s total in my lifetime with it. All in Europe, and all sedans. (126 is my generation S-class) HEhehehHe hard to beleive I OWN an S-class M.B. And another one of Sofia, man she was as excited as I was once she saw all the windows drop.

Another reason why modern cars suck... Here's what we've accomplished since the late 1960s/early 1970s: take 3800 lbs. car remove 1800 lbs. of metal add 1800 lbs. of plastic, rubber, computer chip & sound insulation end result = Can I have my metal back? You can keep the 12 speaker radio, 5 airbags & 300 lbs. of computer hardware that makes my piston squish, fuel squirt, my valve open & close, intake read the o2 levels, sensor read my tire pressure etc...? Oooookay, well then how about getting rid of some of the toys.... power window/lock/mirrow delete? WTF do you mean I HAVE to get a moon-roof, 18" rims, extra thick floor mats, trunklid spoiler, FOUR catalitic converters, heated washer fliuid & a 10" in-dash navigation/dvd/computer if I want the (GT) package & fog-lights?

1100 horsepower under what is basically some math teacher's 1972 Chevy 2-door sedan? OK, that's a sleeper.