Sixty8panther

9mm is fine... I was taught to handle a firearm by an ex-military cop who was one of my closest friends at the time, good to learn. I like GLOCKS but many HATE them.

Middle-Class-Mopoar-Fan: The next official TIGHT WHIPS event coming up is the 1st Annual Winter Scavenger Hunt, but before that can happen the trivia contest conclusion has to be posted. Used to be all official T.W. meetings were in my barn on Tue. or Wed. nights, but as of late everyone's schedules have been all over the F%#&@ng place and coordinating a meeting has been painful. If we set up a T.W. meeting for next tue. night at 8:00 - 10:30pm what are the chances you can make it?

And tonight on the 11:00 o'clock news, New Study shows that reading Consumer Reports can make you sterille, turn you kids into satan worshipers and give you a$$ cancer. Stay tunned.

Ford is the lowest common denominator amongst the Domestics. Always has been, always will be. (independants aside)

Someday, years from now.... this will be a real Doozie of a mistake in hindsight. Kind of like selling a MINT Deusenberg SJ D.C.P. for $8,000 back in 1957.

Blue

I hate C.R. even more than I hate Toyota & Honda. For this very reason. The NUMI car example is a case in point that their heads are up their @$$es. but I'm not going to cite that example again... no need to beat a dead horse.

No, no, no, NO! For several reasons. 1. Sports cars, traditinally do NOT have a back seat. 2. Sports cars are NOt just 2 door versions of high-perf. 4dr sedans... 3. Sports cars are either RWD or AWD with the majority of the power going to the REAR wheels 4. Any self respecting "sports car" manufacturer would follow Rule #3. The Cobalt is not a "Sports Car" Supercharged or not. While it does come in a sporty bodystyle and has a great 5-speed avail;able it is FWD and that it the deciding factor. The Chevrolet Corvette (ALL), Porsche 550 Spyder, Shelby Cobra Roadster 427, Mazda RX7, Toyota MR2, Mercedes SL300, (1955) Dodge Viper, Mazda Miata, Datsun 240Z, BMW Z3/4, Pontiac Fiero (as long as it's a 5-speed)... those are SPORTS CARS. Then there are the GT/2+2 sporty coupes and other "sports-car-like" cars that are close but still do net get a cigar in my book. Case in point: BMW M3, Pontiac GTO, Toyota Celica, Beretta GTU/Z, Thunderbird SuperCoupe (2.3 turbo), Corvair Monza Turbo, Merkur XR4Ti Mini Cooper S, Mercedes SL600 etc. And there's also stuff that I DO consider to be sports cars but some might say that they are NOT. i.e. Porsche 911 (back seats) or Mazda RX-8 (back seats)... Is my Maxima a "sports car" since it has datsun 240Z guts... inline-six with MPEFi, IRS, 4-wheel disk brakes, RWD & a 5-speed? NO. It's a sports sedan, NOT a sports car.... and yet I think it's a LOT closer to a "sports car" mechanically than a Cobalt. Right now GM sells only THREE sports cars in the USA. Chevrolet, Saturn & Pontiac each get one & the later of the two are related. The 04-06 GTO was sport-coupe & the fourth gen. F-bodys were Muscle Cars, not sports cars.

WTF is up with the rear decklid wing... looks like a drift car.

The more I look at this car the less I like it. Stylistically at least. Sorry but it's a big turnoff to me. The Antithesis of the Camaro in every way.

Don;t recalls include unsold units? (curious)

Not a big fan, but that might change if the new C-class 2 door is a hardtop!

Yeah, me too.... 64 mpg in a hadnsome and fun package.... or some Toyota Queef edition Prius that can't even get 50 as a hybrid and is ugly, boring & lame??? Gee I wonder whihc is going to last longer, a diesel german car or a hybrid, overly-complex, needlessly complicated Toyo-DUR wiht 47 batteries.

First off, the Chevy VOLT: I'm not very enthused, the styling is just "ehhh..." and the idea is not revolutionary.Maybe most of us will own something like this but not EVERYONE and almost certainly not ME. XP's dad bought his 1937 Packard off some guy in Maine who daily drove it up to the late 1980s so I'm not the only crazy prick that dislikes modern cars... "They'll never get ME into one of them NEW, MODERN fan-dan-gled 47 Packards!" Second: I kind of like that litle Chevy Dustmite/WRX Flee hatchback. Looks even better than the press photos. Third: Ohhhh.... I get it I/P = instrument panel

While the volt would smoke the Prius I'm not a big fan of that car either. Stylistically or in concept.

virgin

Speaking of which... remember when I visited you in 2005 and we hung out at the Barnes & Noble there was a place close by... (roofing company?) that had 3 if not 4 (1980s) ElCaminos for company vehicles. Their Business name was on the door and everything. I took a photo with my throwaway camera since by that point both of my digital camera's batterys were exhausted. The picture never came out and I always wanted to ask you if you know where it is maybe you could snap a pic. for me?

HOly cow... that's freekin' crazy!

WMJ has the right idea!

The fact that you would say that the Japanese consider cheating, lying, backstabbing & outright manipulation to be acceptable, almost as if it was something inherant in their culture, just shows how biased you are! What an a$$hole!!! Get your facts straight dude! The Japanese have NEVER fought unfair. Their code of ethics in the business world is almost as good as thier ethics when it comes to war! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Oh, wait on second thought, nevermind. YES, I'm exagerating for effect, don't have a cow Japanese car fans.

"Dark side"? I like dark meat sometimes, that's got nothing to do with being gay. And I like big butts and I can not lie....

Cool! So who's up for a Buick Kappa?.... (Wildcat?)

Greek

More of my oppinionated rambling/educated guessing. If there IS a V6 it will be becasue one will be forced induction & the other N.A. I for one would be happy buying a Turbocharged Ecotech powered Camaro. Even better would be a modern day veersion fo the B.O.P. 215 V8. No even aluminum per-se but like a 3.0 liter V8 and then a bunch of optional LS motors. i.e. ~ base hardtop: $22,000 with a mini-V8 (200 cu. in.) 210 HP, 225 TRQ ~ Rally Edition: (RS pckg is cosmetic and unrelated) $24K w/ high-perf. 200 cu. in. (275 HP, 240 TRQ) ~ Z/28: $27,000 with a high perf. 4.9 liter V8 (302 cu. in.) 360 HP, 340 TRQ ~ SS: $29,000 with an LS2 V8 (400 HP, 415 TRQ) ~ ZL-1: $42,000, hardtop only & no cosmetic B.S. over the base hardtop! (under-rated LS7) also.... a mini inline six would be a fantastic thing!!! Think Atlas but 65% of the size inside & out. Inline Sixes can be made to run smoothly with DOD and so can baby- V8s. If anything the Camaro should be V8 only with varying levels of DOD, VVTi & DI. A V6 is useless in terms of DOD, so why even bother??? (I'l probably be stuck buying a damn V6)

My prediction 90% possibility: one V6 100% possibility: at least two diff. V8s, if not four. I'd like a base Camaro V8. Back in summer of 1967 when my old '68 Camaro was assembled in Van Nuys it only had three options. ( Base V8 hardtop ) - Automatic - Power Steering - A/C The car was a little over $2700 back then with these three options. I want the 21st century version of that... basically a BASE MODEL Hardtop (crank windows are okay so long as all four drop down sight unseen) with whatever the smallest/cheapest V8 motor they have will be, say a 4.9 liter with DOD, REAL manual trans. (5sp okay, 6 would be nice) and a few other basic features would be great. traction control w/ off mode, ABS & a MP3 compatible CD player will do nicelly. I do not want a sunroof, I do not want T-tops... both of those are stuid & lame compared to a true pillarless hardtop. I also have no use/desire for some "high-perf" V6. F*** that... either give me an Atlas I6, or just a super cheap V6 If I'm paying for anything extra it better have 16 valves & EIGHT big holes bored into the block!