Sixty8panther

New Vibe? Not that I care much but I thought the NUMI partnership was dead?!

Scrotum

1. FWD 2. HondAcura 3. FWD 4. ToyLexuScion 5. Transverse mounted motors 6. People who know less about cars than my cats do but have strong opinions on the topic! 7. Republicans 8. Democrats (even more so than #7) 9. Political Correctness 10. So. Korean cars 11. Rubber Bands meant to drive/time camshafts instead of a metal CHAIN 12. B-pillars, especially on 2 door cars. No excuse in 70% of cases! 13. Did I mention Front Wheel Drive?

Now THAT is funny!!!!

It's all good. No harm done. Here's the thread about this topic & my plans for a roadtrip down there. I've already taken off the time from work. From June 13th to the 17th I'll be joined by a few friends in my journey to OK. Hopefully in a '59 Buick! http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...=14872&st=0 ^^^^^

I'm still jelaous for the record... you lucky pr1ck.

XP: I know for a fact that the 0.5 SD389 thing has been done. Someday I'll make one myself for a 1968 GTO clone w/ a 6-speed and call it a "super-economical commuter car"!

Gotta lovethat title by the way... now even an imaginary, hypothetical car that might or MIGHT NOT come into existance years from now THREATENS detroit. Disgusting how much Toyota Co$k the Media loves to swallow... That's an insult to DCX. post WWII R.R. are pieces of #$%^&*

well anyway I enjoy O&A for the fact that they piss all over P.C. liberal f**ks with tampons in their 4nu$es complain and say they are sexist, racist, homophobic or whtever but they just say what they feel and make no excuses.... in fact they're not any of the above and if anything I have respect for people who are not afraid to say what a bunch of pu$$ies we Americans have turned into.... sometimes they take a gag/skit/joke TOOOO far though. Every comedian does that sometimes.

It's all relative, I love 1958 Cadillacs but I'd take a beat up, cosmetically challenged 1959 four door hardtop over almost any 1958 Cadillac in near perfect condition. Those bullet tail lights & knife edge tail fins insipre one of only two reactions: LOVE or JEALOUSY. (and therefore hate) Lincoln just kind of threw their hands up in the air & ended up giving us a beautiful '61 Continental as a result of the fact that EVERYONE knew that the '59 Caddy meant CHECK-MATE! It think even in the fall of 1958 it was apparent that the tail fin had reached the pinnacle of perfection!

Fly's post about the 1959 Ford Skyliner insipred this: As much as I do not like the 1959 Fords, I love most any other 1959 domestic. First & forermost the entire GM lineup including the Opel-Buicks. I would rate the GM stuff like this in order of favorites: Buick Cadillac Pontiac Chevrolet Oldsmobile (GMC/Chevy trucks fall somewhere in between Pontiac & Olds) But after that, the next best thing is a 1959 Imperial, which is about as easy to find as a polite Frenchman in Paris if you're wearing an American flag on your baseball cap. Back to reality, a 1959 Dodge 2 door hardtop of any kind is a great thing to aspire to without having your head up in the clouds. Love These cars. I guess I should say that if and when a hardtop (2 or 4 door) ever paths with me I just might snap it up as long as it's affordable. What a pissed off face... Not quite a 1959 Buick but close. Just for comparison: Except for the non-canted headlights and the bizzare tail fins they're 99% as cool as 1959 Buicks. More: http://www.caroholic.com/images/59Dodge1.jpg http://cars.em-ef.de/DodgeCoronet59/Dodge-0.htm http://www.dyna.co.za/cars/Dodge_59_Kingsw...pe_Red_sf11.jpg

Waterboy

You're a funny b@$tard O.B. d87rs: Dude, it looks liek a complete $h!box, yes... it will probably take 20 years of inflation to make a full restoration worthwile and it will take many parts off ebay but this car can be restored & is actually far better off than most of the cars I've seen some crazy europeans restore in those Nordic countries. There's a lot of American car nuts in Europe and you'd be amazed at how much of thr car they hand-fabricate on cars that are 80% rust & 20% rot-through. Anything & everything can be remade, remanufactured, recast or fabricated. After all, someone did it originally of the car would not exist, right? Now I realize this mentality means that some people put $700,000 and 10,000 man hours into restoring a 1931 Duesenberg... but i have nothing but respect for those people. Better than blowing your money on the stock market when it crashes or buying some over rated exotic that has its value drop by 40% the second you leave the dealership. After you're gone, decadess from now when the car is in a museum or a private collectors' garage with a scrapbook of photos of how you hand fabricated 70% of the car you will live on forever.... having realy DONE something, created something substantial in this life. We all should be so lucky as to leave our mark like this. No one has as of yet said the obvious: NICE HARDTOP!!!

I've got nothing against a 4dr Wrangler.... I'm surprised it took them 6 decades to make a factory four door JEEP myself. I've been sketching them since I was a kid. What does bother me is a V6 in a truck. As a dumb kid i thought inline-sixes were lame, too long & therefore impractical since a V6 is more compact. But then I realized as an adult just how much more AWSOME I6s were than V6s. given the choice I'd NEVER take a V6 over an inline six. My Datsun has 7 more inches of nose than the non-US version of the 77-84 Bluebird so as to accomodate the extra two cylinders over the four cylinder the rest of world got in the "short wheelbase" version of my car.

Tom Tom

Hahaha how ironic if yu threw in a Britisified BOP 215. L.A. the overall height of the Atlas 5 makes that idea unrealistic. You'd have to install a shallow oil pan and do some major reworking and I think a cowl induction hood on this little tempest wolud look like A$$.

Now what the heck are you talking about?

Turbocharging is more efficient & much cooler than supercharging... 9/10 times.

Meanwhile in Japan I hear all the male executives of Toyota & Honda have too pee sitting down.

GM is doing what it used to back in the golden era: Under promise, OVER deliver.

Let's do it. I'll plop down a lunch box full of $10 & $20 bills on Mr. Laurence's 1959 Buick LeSabre (4411) Two Door Post Sedan and on the way home we can buy your '61 Tempest. I'm sure the '59 can tow that little toy car.

Here are a few photos of the car.... not much but it gives you an idea. We looked the car over at about 9:00pm. Then on the way back home saw/videotaped a pretty big housefire. I saw it from the highway and even though XP's GF was already pissed at him for being late I decided to convince him to go check it out. We parked in some church parking lot, shot some footage and took a few photos while praying that no people died in this inferno. And then, 60 miles & an hour and half later the Super 88's fuel pump gushed fuel out the side and gave up the ghost. My first breakdown in the car. I think she KNOWS I'm going to sell her. It's quite flattering that the Sixty4 Super 88 is attached to me enough to try a desperate attempt to stay in my possession. Fianlly at 3am, half frozen, exhaused but pumped about the possibility of a '59 Buick in my near future, I got home. Granted it was in the cab of a Ford wrecker with my poor crippled Oldsmobile on the back of the flatbed but overall it was a very intrguing night. Seeing that house fire made me appreciate life that much more and seeing that 1959 LeSabre made me want to never buy a car modern than a 1959 ever again. Peace, I need my sleep.

Dude, you've never seen a '61 Tempest? Your '67 Razorback is only 1 foot too long to fit in your storage unit at a 90* angle, a 1961 Tempest is AT LEAST two feet shorter thasn the Razorback. Remember that 1962 Oldsmobile F85 wagon at Holland's? Picture the same car but even a few inches shorter than that... Or an inch shorter, whatever. I want one if only to be able to say in the future that I had a cable for a driveshaft in an old Poncho.

I love 99% of Amereican cars from the '50s and '60s, I even like a lot of weird Mopars from the early 60s and I get flack for that... I also think the 59-60 Lincoln hasd some redeming value. But late 50s Fords are just hideous to me. 57-59s especially just don't look attractive to me at all. Those lines are ALL off, not one seems right to me, & then there's the matter of the quality issues, tiny hood that makes access to the engine bay difficult and the horrible mechanicals of these retractable hardtops. My opinion of them has never been high, even as a kid I thought "even in the 1950s a few really ugly cars were made." Then my oppinion of them dropped to an all time low when I looked one over in a restoration shop and the owner who is obsessed wiht these cars told me how even though he's owned several and he has a soft spot for therm they're absolute shitboxes quality wise. And that bathtub in the trunk may be innovative but it must suck to have something important inside of it when the roof gets stuck down. Harsh words for sure, esp. from someone who's second favorite model year for cars EVER is 1932 followed closely by 1959.

S44B has always been quirky, it's too bland these days... although the 9-3 is a delightfuly clean and pure design. Back in the day SAAB was FWD when most were RWD. I say they should be RWD only from now on.