Sixty8panther

This is 60% PR, 30% Bull$h! & 10% real world benefit.

Hey You, Leave my Datsun out of this! :wink:

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Angelfire: You suck! Fun with a Turbocharged Subaru. http://images2.jokaroo.net/videos/duckcar.wmv

Don't apologize, improvise. The answer is yes, if you're wondering if this hat is made of Beaver. :wink:

When if ever, do you think GM will offer a 0% (or even like 2.9%) financing deal on the Cobalt? This may be the gentle economic "push" my Mom needs to replace her Grand Am with a new Chevy, either a Cobalt or an HHR.

True, very bad. Still not as bad as the two-story Civic dash. WTF is up wiht that?

At least they have no torque steer and the motor is not mounted sideways. Caprice: I've been there in FWD, RWD & 4x4. Ice sucks. Scarier than snow or even sleet it is the ultimate traction robber. You're lucky since you did not crash inot anyones cars or whatnot. Lesson Learned, next time keep it to an empty parking lot. NOt that I'm in a position to preach. I f**ked up big time and got my 1987 Cougar XR7 stuck one time during the middle of the Superbowl in 2001. I drove the car into a snow/ice covered construction site. They were building high-end luxury homes out in Andover, Mass. I went to the end of the road where there was a circular driveway. I got my Cougar up to about 35mph in a couter-lock powerslide around the "Rotary" (seen Dukes of Hazzardthe movie yet?) and all of a sudden fell through some ice into these deep ruts left by a Ditch-Witch. They were like 10" deep and there was nothing but MORE Ice at the bottom. The Cougar's front and rear tires were all neatly wedged in the ruts and ther car was going nowhere that the Ditch Witch had not gone. I ended up making matters worse by trying to back up at like 50 out of the ruts and doing a J-turn. It kind of worked untill I plowed into a 6 foot tall snowbank and got the ass end of the COugar about 5 feet in the air and stuck in the hugh pile of snow... even worse it was like 10 feet away fomr a 40 foot cliff. A buddy's Suburban pulle dme out of the snowbank and onto the dirt road and I was all set. FWD might not have gotten me stuck there but it would not have allowed me to have as muhc fun either. Besides, blaming RWD for that incident would be like blaming spoons for Rosie O'Donnel's weight problem.

Caprice: yeah, that's not going to fly in Mass. They make sure it lights up and then shuts off during the emissions test... and besides, they plug the computer directly inot the OBDIII.

I'm in excellent company. The house you see across the road? He's a great neighbor. Not counting his familys' 4 daily drivers his collcetion of unregistered cars includes: 1970 Cadillac Coupe Deville (Mr. Death*) 1983? AMC SX4 (red) 1985 AMC Concord parts car *ask me later, it's creepy I also got my 2004 Demolition derby car (1990 Mazda 626) from him free of charge. And I was the unlucky bastard who bought his old 1990 Suburban off of him for $1000. After I decided it was not worth fixing I sold it for $700 having spent $120 and a few hours on it. The kid who bought it off of me fixed it up and put it on the road after like 7 months of work. The kicker? He totalled the truck like a week later when he rolled it into some private property in Chelmsford. There was a criminal investigation for some reason and the truck was impounded, crushed roof and all. Did I meantion the neighbor across the way who owns the Lawnmower sales & repair shop? He's got like 12 "classic" Chevys from the ealry 60s to the mid 70s. Among them are two 1968 Camaros, one 1969 Camaro, (being restored as we speak) Two 68/69 Chevelles, two 1970.5-1973 Camaros and several trucks. The only non-Chevrolet in the fleet is a late 50s Ford but it's Chevrolet Smal Block powered. So yeah, not too many compalints from my neighbors.

You guys are too funny. I guess with three Chevrolets (including an angry Blazer), two Cadillacs, one 1970s Oldsmobile & the already provoked Volvo in the driveway the two Datsuns are very much out numbered. Still, my fleet is well behaved. They all know I love them. Just don't anyone tell that poor 269,000 mile Corsica that it's taking a one way trip to Holland's Auto Salvage soon. Variance: You might enjoy this panoramic photo of the fleet. http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...?showtopic=6509

Scrolling will be required for this post since it's panoramic. Here's what my world looks like. Remember how I said there's nine vehicles in my driveway?

We've been talking about this since the late 90s. Enough talking GM... let's see results.

NOS: C'mon now, as a Camaro owner you should know better than that. Unless the car is a POS underpowered $h!box that will not even chirp the tires the weight transfer will be far more beneficial than a few more hundred pounds over the drive wheels. Besides, only FWD cars have really $h!ty weight distribution because both the engine, trans and related components like Diff. are ahead of the front axle. Reg: Car enthusiast put up wiht MUCH more than that in order to not compromise their driving fun. Leaky convertible tops, expensive insurance for sports cars, lack of passanger/trunk space, high theft rates for their desirable cars & in smost cases less than average fual economy just to name a few.

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Very cool. Never again (esp. in the 21st century) will there be an engine as versatile, durable, economical to build, simple to work on & infinately adaptable as the Chevy Small Block. :wub:

Whornet :AH-HA_wink:

The proportions on this car are so damn close to perfection it's scary. I think this angle is the most flattering to the second gen. Q45. Once again I have to thank Variance for jarring my memory about how much I've admired these Luxo-barges. Kind of like a Jaguar XJS, I always loved the styling but never thought about actually buying one. Except unlike the Jaguar the Infiniti has Cadillac-level quality and reliability. The place of Honor in the Driveway. Not saying muhc I guess since both my Blazers and the Datsun used to occupy this space when the STS did not.

This junkpile of a 2005 Toyota Prius was spotted by me this morning when I was out hunting for cheap used SRT-4s at Allan Mello Dodge. Much to my dismay it had NOT broken down, but get this... in order to repair the quarter panel on this car the body shop has to tow it to a Toyota dealer to have all the battery packs removed and after the job is done they have to be reinstalled by a Toyota dealer. Guess who picks up the tab? The Toyota consumer obviously through their insurance premium, of course. So the car has to be towed there and back twice just to do a small amount of bodywork. All this was told to me by the older gentleman in the photo. What a piece of $hit the Prius is!

Yes. Absolutely. More on that later. Window Sticker And here's that colage from earlier. Right from the Chevy Website.

Like they say, no question is a stupid one, except for the one you don't ask. It's SOOOOO much more than that but yes, that's an excellent place to start. Two wheels for power two for steering. Just like God intended. Now take into consideration the superior weight distribution, weight transfer advantages, the benefits in terms of durability, simplicity & accessability with longitudinal engine placement, the superior handeling characteristics and ability to avoid understeer with the press of a gas pedal and you have a clear advantage. I don't care if you stick a hot poker into my chest I'll never deny that RWD is inherantly superior to FWD. RWD makes for better drivers, it allows more control of your car and it's more fun by to drive in every situation, even snow. The only advantage is that if you live in a wintery climate and have FWD you might be able to avoid buying snow tires or good all-seasons but that's just lazy and backwards. :twocents:

NO I do not NEED a new car, but it's more complicated than a simple yes or no. We now have two payments, one on the Infiniti Q45 and one on the STS which the guy at Continental Auto Sales would not take in trade. So as it stands I have an STS that has 143,XXX miles with blown out air ride shocks/struts , air pump, RF wheel bearing, a windshield, at least one of the four oxygen sensors also needs to be replaced, the car eats about a quart of oil every 250 miles & cosmetically it's in fair-to-poor shape. And I still owe about $3150 on ithe car. My payment is $167 a month and the car is pretty much undrivable. In any rate the "service engine soon" light means it WILL not pass emissions without some $$$ invested. So why keep this car? I don't have $2500 cash to make the car mint again. It's time to say goodbye to the STS. Marcia loves the car like I love my Camaro but all good things come to an end. She's happy wiht the Q and it's time for me to stop driving 2000 miles a month in a 1984 Datsun. Trading the STS in on a Caprice or other B-body would be my ideal scenario but finding one that can still be financed (no older than 1996 ) means it's a long shot at best. If we can trade the STS in on a brand new Cobalt and go up less than $100 in payment it's a win-win scenario. Chevy gets a new car sale, I get a new car. Other than the fact that it's FWD and the key is in the steering column instead of the dash there's not much else bad I can say. It's a 5-speed, it's obnoxiously Yellow, the styling is downright attractive (for an compact car) the interior looks great and the fuel economy is enough to make it a "Thinking-Man's-Prius" while performance is still brisk.

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Happy Birthday Buddy.... here's wishing you own a 5th gen Camaro as soon as it's available but don't have to pay an outrageous dealer markup.

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