Sixty8panther

Here's several more pages of exciting news from the cuttign edge of Automotive technology circa 1914. ^_^ BTW: more good stuff can be found here... all your que http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...st=0#entry61182

1. True or false? The "Detroiter" made by the Briggs-Detroiter Co. cost $985. Some interesting features included a full floating rear axle, red electric flash oil gauge, carburtor above frame, left hand drive & multiple disk clutch in oil. True 2. True or false? A California Motorist ascended a very steep grade by using a external feed line & a broken bottle filled with gasoline. He lifted the bottle with the attached fuel line above his head after the car was driven up too steep of a hill for the gravity fed carbureter to function wiht the standard gasoline tank. True 3. True or false? A 1914 Republic Motor Truck 3/4 ton with express body, internal gear drive cost $995.00, while a 1 1/2 ton chassis cost $1475.00 True 4. True or false? An advertisement in the back of the magazine brags about "Racing Type Roadster Seats" "Made of heavy gauge leaded steel, rolled edges... upholstered in black muleskin, $23/pair, or $25 for leather. The address is a "AUTO PARTS COMPANY" on Jackson Blvd in Chicago, Ill. True 5. True or false? There is an article with this title: "The Amish Religious Sect Accepts the Motor Car" Central Illinois Colony Has to Rescind Action True 6. True or false? The Rexo II was the lowest priced electric horn obtainable at $3.85 while the Aeromobile Exhaust Horn of the Fulton Company required no up-keep expense. True 7. True or false? The Hoover Mud Hook was a paddle-like device designed to help the car dig itself out of mud or sand. It was manufactured in Boston Massachusetts by the W. H. Hoover Company. The "hook" attached to the tire with special tanned rawhide straps. FALSE! It was manufactured in New Berlin, Ohio; not in Boston Mass. 8. True or false? The Jackson Automobile Company advertised their $1650 "48"-six & $1375 Olympic "46" with the slogan "No hill too steep, no mud too deep". True 9. True or false? This is the title of the article on page 22: "Washington Puts $13,000,000 Into Its Highways" State Accomplishes Wonderful Results in 2 Years True 10. True or false? A Bailey Auto Heater, manufactured in New Castle Pa., worked by redirecting the exhaust gases into the cabin of a closed or open car. It was claimed to be completely odorless & noiseless and yet it reduced back pressure and increased horsepower. True Take a moment to really let #10 sink in. Look at the diagram and think about it... :blink:

oh that's right... it's c-spec that's in Mass right? either way if you're in the area you HAVE to stop by... I'f I'm ever out there I'll be paying a visit to you and WMJ. :)

Yeah that steering wheel is gross. I'd be installing a traditional one about 5 minutes after I picked this car up if I bought it.

Tailfins No cigar

M84: Wow! Holy mother of... that's depressing. I've got sevral stories, none of them involving myself personaly but friends and family and such. One thing I will do as a parent is tell my kid(s) when they're old enough to party that any time, any where I'll drive them but under any circumstance they DO NOT DRIVE DRUNK!

Drunk drivers SUCK.... I hope this retard gets what's coming to him! Hope your brother gets well soon. What barracks is he out of? Framingham? Concord? EDIT: Oh, since you're in Mass like I am I assumed your B.I.L. was as well. He has a very good point. If the guy can't steer clear of 18 feet of reflective tape than he has no business walking nevermind driving!

That Razorback with a chopped roof is scruptious! :huh: A+

Great car stupid name. I have a 1:24th scale Gembala Slant nose 911 ragtop in white. I've had that for like 12 years and that's the last I heard of that tuner.

Not a week goes by that I don't think about it. I really liked that little thing. Had I gotten asking price for my Fleetwood Brougham I might have bought it this fall but money is tight and space is getting tight. Once the STS is out of my hair and I sell the Camaro I may pick up the Corvair if it's still there and just have fun with it untill I find the '59 Buick I want. :D

Blame Canada! and that b!tch Anne Murry too... All joking aside I love Canada. I've had many fun vacations up there as a kid. They have some good looking girls up there too, I almost lost my virginity in Toronto but that's a story for another day... :CanadaEmoticon:

thread title: Is Canada all that different from America? Canada is still AMERICA just like the USA. :P Don;t forget Jim Carey, Alanis Morisette & Bryan Adams! Now now, we've already appologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions. It's aboot Democracy and it's aboot... [/SouthParkBLU]

I saw the damn thing when it was new, I saw it later on a 20/20 special about GM... (they talked about the voice commad feature more than the roof) and I saw it in your post. Yes, it's a suicide door Hardtop of sorts and made quite the splash on the concept car circuit. There were some awkward styling elements to it and frankly I think it had about 10% a chance of seeing production compared to the Pontiac Rageous & Chevrolet Nomad of the same era. Sad to say I doubt anything like the Cielo will ever come off a GM assembly line. Taking a knife to a used Park Ave and having custom glass cut is something obtainable if you're insane like myslef and are willing to spend $5000 to customize a car onl;y to lower it's resale. :D WMJ: The 1932 Helicron is way cool but nothing like what I want to make. I'll do up a sketch soon to show what I'm talking about. BTW: that "1934 McQUAY-NORRIS STREAMLINER" is a hoot. I want one of those. :)

Yes, in fall of 1959 the Tempest looked like a compact when parked next to a Bonneville but a '64 Tempest was an "intermediate" and was much bigger than a Corvair, Valiant or VW Bug from the same era. If the Tempest was a compact then my '68 Camaro is the equivelant of today's AVEO.

Yes the Cielo was very cool but realistically it's just as costly to produce as a hardtop and IMO less enjoyable. Sun still bakes your head like a hot potatoe but the framed windows are still there as if it was a regular sedan. *meh*

So because the B-body was cancelled once means it HAS to stay dead right? Don't tell that to fans of other cancelled GM products. You know like: Camaro, Firebird, 2dr Tahoe, Eldorado, Roadmaster etc. And why not a MB S-class competitor AND a more traditional lagre Cadillac for the old crowd and us "weirdos". As far as fleet cars they use tons of Impalas, Grand Ams, Grand Prixs, Park Aves, Chargers & Chrysler 300s too... does that automatically make those cars crap? :blink: Fleet sales HELP profit not hurt it. Other than that I'll agree to disagree.

Hey you're the one who keeps talking about ASS not me. :AH-HA_wink: Althought I do not think it's usually the best souce of factual definition, my post is right in line with Wikipedia's definition of Muscle Car. It does meantion RWD but not conclusivelly and there is a note of how Compact cars are traditionally excluded form the definition of a Mucle car... it's supposed to be a midsize. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car

9 times out of 10 I refer a hardtop (weather 2 or 4dr) to a Convertible. I love driving a convertible once in a blue moon but I'm not the type to buy one... maybe a Solstice but in N.E. Convertible season is like two months: May and Sept. The rest of the time you need a roof wiht heat or AC blasting. Besides I think Hardtops are cooler than convertibles in most cases... smooth roofline and soid roof with the exotic open air feel.

Here's the ones I'd buy that are somewhat realistic for my budget: Small 2-seater? Solstice Coupe? Cobalt SS/SC 5-speed Sedan? Charger R/T Wagon/Hatchback? Magnum R/T SUV? Trailblazer SS Van? Chevy Express Truck? Colorado Crew Cab, 2wd (5-speed if available) Used? 1959 Buick Electra 225 Bubbletop (2dr)

Enzora: Well, post a topic that doesn't bore you. :) BV: Great classic ad, but a very sad story. :( BigPoncho: I almost bought a 1972 Chrylser New Yorker in pea soup green. It was runnig and driving with a 440 and the guy was a motivated seller, asking only $1200. Saddly it was just a few months before Sofia was born and I could not justify buying ANOTHER car, esp since I had no place to store it. In a parallel universe I would have sold my Blazer and made that car my daily driver. :) 1200 bucks, I get depressed just thinking about it. Couldn't find too many photos of 4dr hard top 1970 N.Y.ers like yours but here's a nice sedan. Ohh found one: http://www.fuselage.de/chr70/70chr_lineup_b.jpg Here's a stripped Chevelle 4dr that shows off the half-posts where a B-pillar would be on a pillared sedan.

Here's a cool photo I took this summer of the Corvair that I mentioned in TurboRush's thread.

BTW: here's the Corvair (four door hardtop 66) that I almost bought this past summer.

Well like I said I was trying to kep this thread to four door hardtops only, but when I make a 2dr hardtop thread you'll see a couple European cars... and even a couple JJapanese, no joke!

To each his own... the 850 is a gr8 BMW. :) Here's an interesting one:

Well several other people beat me to it. But yes a Turbocharged Turbo was available and I've see a couple of them at car shows. I'm a big fan of the 2nd gen. cars as I prefer the styling more refined chassis & suspension. It was proven after the Corvair got the axe that it was no more and no less safe than any other car fo the era. Deaths per capita were ezactly average. The engine is rear mounted in the traditional sense and just like an old school Porsche/VW/Tatra pancake enigne is air cooled, and mounted about lower than the gas tank on my '68 Camaro. This of course aids the center of gravity but the quirky handeling asociated wiht Porsche 911s is there. Very twitchy cars if you drive like a dumbass and try to turn onna dime. SO yes hypothetically if you're driving 70mph in a 25 mph zone in the back roads of a suburban town then YOU might loose control of the car... as with ANY other car. Try expaining 2+2 to Nader, say what you will but he'll still insist it's 3.999 and not 4. :P The 67-70 Razorback Eldorado is a tough find and is relatively rare compared to the typical Camaro or Biscayne. The 442 is a great car any year any powerplant. Either way good luck. :)