Sixty8panther

Thanks. Moltar: If geography was not as much of an issue.... Either way good luck with it, she should just keep it IMHO.

I love yellow on 90% of cars but I'm not feeling "1970 GSX saturn yellow" on an '86 Electra. Gunmetal gray and more so black Goes with everything/anything.

Agreed. I'll admit, sometimes I do get my proverbial panties in a bunch..... usually it's because a Toyopet living-dead driver cut me off hours before. :wink:

DF: Ever heard the term "you can't get blood from a stone"? You my friend are LIVING it with that car. I joke around about my RoadmOnster and say at times that it's kind of like the car served as a Pakistani taxi cab, hence it looks more beat up than a Peugeot after a car bomb in Iraq rips through it.... Now before you put (invest?!?) another copper plated cent into that rust-bucket take car of the structural problems.... keep in mind this will be a hige waste of money as the rust on that Dodge is pretty much everywhere. Just cause you can't see it does not mean it is not there. RUST never sleeps. Rust is like cancer, the only sure way to fix it is to CUT out the entire problem area. My '92 Buick Roadmaster was/is nowhere near as bad as your "Black Shadow" but it got floorboard patches via SP's welder a couple months ago... What you see in this photo are the sparks flying as a clean, new sheet of steel is welded in place of the rotted rear footwell....

3 years ago I would absolutely agree with you.... Nowadays when EVERYONE has something kustom for RIMZ it's just nice to see original wheelcovers.

That is sexier than an up-skirt photo of Melissa Gilbert's sna$%! HOWEVER... For $59,000 I'd just buy the flowing: 1. clean, daily-driver potential '70 - '73 Trans Am or Firebird Formula $12,000 2. clean, 99% stock '69 Camaro hardtop of some sort.... Z/28 or SS350 clone would be fine. $17,000 3. 100% drivable "barn-find" pre-war car, i.e. '31-'38 GM car, original paint & rebuilt mechanicals $30,000 alternate #3: $10,000 on a REAL barn find, solid '30s car.... spend $20,000 to have all mechanicals redone.

The Olds 307 is what powered both of my '86 and my '87 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham (dElegance)s. It's a great motor considering it's respective era.... it will give a Chevy 350 a run for its money IF and this is important.... IF you make sure it is not starved of oil. Theres two ways of doing this: check the oil (via dipstick) it early and often. Every time you gas up or every 100 miles/3 days is a good rule of thumb. -- no back-talk from the lesbians please! AND spend the $15 on CORK or thick rubber valvecover gaskets and throw them on asap... or even if you pay a mechanic to do this it would not be too expensive. The point is the Olds valvecovers are held on by only 5 perimiter bolts... two up top and three on the bottom. This has always been the weakest link in the Olds rocket (based) motors. If you: 1. drive a high milage Olds 307 powerd car with the original gaskets (my triple silver 86 FB had 180,000 when I replaced them!) and 2. you do not monitor the resulting oil leak, not adding oil when neccessary you will probably 3. replace the motor at some point or junk the car with a blown 307 ---- Me and you may not be tight like Charley Murphey & Rick James but I'm giving you honest, valuable advice here.

The G8 should be: 1. 4 door sedan short wheelbase 2. 4 door sedan long wheelbase 3. 2 door pillarless hardtop (I love DF's chop BTW) 4. 2 door convertible 5. Station wagon (sport, estate... spin it any way you want) Now THAT is platform sharing!!!

Ur welkome. THAT is an early 1930s Duesenberg SJ dual cowl phaeton. Even if you made a G6 out of solid gold with diamonds for headlights it would probably not be worth the $2+ million that Doosy is worth. Rightfully so. :wink:

Four cylinder & six cylinder turbos in lower end Camaro models? sure. NO! So long as internal combustion is alive the Corvette should be a V8 ONLY car. It's the freekin halo car for GM... V6 power? pleeeeezz! If anything it's time for the Vetter to step up to 12 or 16 cylinders. I'm dead serious too... if 6.2 liter V8 = 30mpg highway than why not have a 20mpg car ABOVE the ZR-1 that has sixteen cylinders displacing... oh, 7 or 8 liters!?

I'm confused as all hell.... Why are people using W-body, K-car Mopar era FWD-ers, front wheel drive and "redeming"[/b] in the same sentance?

By the definition of interior dimmensions would Square, tall crossovers like the Element be technically a FULL size car? (it's a 4-cyl unibody 2wd tincan... NOT a truck!) See how stupid that is!?

To-Mato vs. Toma-To I understand that interior volume... but it's still a stupid classification. Exterior dimmensions are what SHOULD count. I would not argue with a "cavernous-midsize" or "ultra-efficiently packaged midsize" but for Krissake DF, remember the Green Monster? You drove that and my/Fly's '76 LeSabre a few times... THOSE are full size cars. Technically even my short-wheelbase '59 Buick is, IMO just at the threashold of what is "full size". FULL means FULL, just like there's no such thing as 101% there can not be a whole range of mid-to-large cars called fullsize. That's my point, again... the stupidity of the world in 2008. And yes, before you ask I'll interject & say that Mercedes Benz was smoking crack when they called the CLS with its' four doors & fat, ugly b-pillar a "4-door coupe" And don;t get me started on the VW Phaeton!!! THIS is a FEEKIN' Phaeton... notice the complete lack of a roof!? (among other things)

Agreed! Also, I can not beleive no one has ever done a 1:64 scale '59 Buick, what the heck?, it's such a cool car styling wise!

Way less cool, less practical & no better on gas than a B-body with higher repair bills & a goofy look like it was designed to be driven through really tall & narrow tunnels. The Trooper is lame, it has the look of a London double decker bus with none of the cool cache.

The oval-esque wheel well openings on late '60s & early '70s B-body Chevys are sooo cool, as well as the concave rear windows on the '70 coupes and big, chrome-laden noses. I'd kill one of you guys and bury you in my backyard after digging a shallow grave with a Taco Bell spork just to go back to those days. Cars were CARS, unlike today.

I saw a Prius on a flat bed tow truck.... hood was ajar. ---- My friend I grew up in Europe and watched Trabants & much less crappy but not much bigger Skodas drive past my school bus stop as a kid by the dozen with a few but rare baby Mercedes or BMW cars on occaison, but even I would not call the LH cars "big". They're NOT fullsize IMHO, not even close, just cause the interior was large due to the cab-forward styling does not mean they're anything more than a midsize car.... maybe the magazine rags think that a Ford 500 or Dodge Intrepid is full size but I'm not that blind. If your Intrepid is FULL SIZE, than WTF "size" is a Town Car or a DTS? Super-FULL-size?

I got a couple of these already, the graphics are bit too much but I've seen MUCH worse from HW. I'm sure at some point we'll see a "Taco-Bell Tribal Tattoo-Art Edition" Camaro. Yey... for the Camaro they'll probably just mold a new green-house-glass part # with the b-pillar and side windows. Depressing

Agreed. Although I will say there might be some truth to Siegen's bad day theory.

Let's see wht kind of imaginations you guys have... I'll start: I'd like to build a '32 highboy style hot rod out of a Peterbilt 379. Heres something simmilar (but more tacky) to my idea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDTh-ELIXz8...feature=related

Saw the last gen. version of that POS in Tombstone, NM back in 2003.

Sad. It will take you 150,000 miles of driving that G6 to make up for the car payment, and you'll stil be paying more for insurance and repairs. In the end, it's a G6, even if Bob Lutz signed the hood and a magical goose filled your trunk full of golden eggs you'd still have traded DOWN!

All of a sudden those gently used 22 spinners I wuz gonna throw on Julie's 500SEC seem less appealing.

Trooper.... Go with the B-body dude.

Wow MM, the HHR p/u is quote cool, except for that gross grille... the Pt's grille is much more appealing!