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The things is, there was not a single thing stopping the legacies from jumping into the EV world head-on also. They knew they were funding Tesla and they could have stopped the bleeding early on with investing into BEVs. They had the ability to offset their own efficiencies, but chose not to. Right? Or was there something in writing that wouldn't allow that? -
The auto industry also has the ability to just "do the right thing" on their own, right? i get that the president is a POS and he makes bad decision after bad decision, but this also needs to be put onto the auto manufacturers. They had 15 years to get to the point of building affordable BEVs with adequate range, but they sat on their hands until like 2019 or so, while getting our tax dollars. Now that they aren't getting our extra tax dollars they just decide to cancel them? That sounds exactly like the "corporate greed" that all of us regular people are sick and tired of. The fact that it is something oh so earily broken. They're unnecessarily funky to operate. Oh, and we get ice here in the Midwest and I can guarantee they are, at the very least, finicky when it's 0 degrees F and there's ice on the vehicle. The fact that there's even discussions on a door handle and how it operates, means it's been over-thought. These stupid flush door handles very likely would not stop me from buying something with them, but that doesn't mean I have to like that function.
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I don't love the headlight area, but I feel like it is the kind of thing that could grow on my and look better in person. I appreciate them getting the kidney grills going in the correct direction again. I don't love that screen, at all. However, it may be the kind of thing that just works well for the driver but photographs like crap from straight on, because of the "odd" shape. Those damn doorhandles. I understand the aero benefit of them, but I hate them. Why is it on the president for the manufacturers to make and sell the vehicles? Our President is a complete idiot, but I also don't exactly think it should be on the people to compensate the manufacturers to make these vehicles. They had like a 15 year runway to establish themselves in this market and all they drug their feet until the last minute. As soon as the government took their(our) $7500 off the table, all the manufactures feel the need to "reevaluate" their EV portfolio and future.
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Isn't the A5 Sportback that, too, then?
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A couple off the top of my head that are missing are the Audi A5 Sportback and A7 (I guess only the RS7 is still around in the US). Doesn't BMW also have a four-door version of the 4 Series? Or has that gone away? The Corolla/hatchback/GR Corolla and Prius are still around. Oh yeah, and the Crown. Although the Crown is kind of a weird class, almost of its own. Merc has the CLA still. BMS has a 4-door 2 Series. I assume this list was just ICE sedans..? If you expanded to BEVs, the list gets much larger.
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I completely agree with you on the West coast being much more EV friendly and people are adapting much quicker out there. I just don't think there will be many people looking for 80-100k vans. I get it, they are crazy spacious, but people are just stubborn on the van-shape. Outside of the price, which is supposedly pretty nuts, IMO, it SHOULD do well. I just don't think it really will. It's kind of like most station wagons. A ton of people love their utility but very few actually follow through with their higher-than-a-comparable-SUV/sedan price.
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I can admire a company just trying to make a luxurious vehicle and not worrying about the exterior shape. Yeah, vans don't look great buuuuuut, hop on in and it's a true luxury experience. I love the idea but I don't exactly think it will take off here in the US. To me, it feels like something limousine companies will buy and that's about it. Maybe because of that, if customers have great experiences in it, it will then take off in the retail side, as well. Americans are stubborn and mostly refuse to actually get the right vehicle for their needs. Being a BEV will be a turn off for a lot and being a van will be a turn off for a lot. I don't see it doing well, but I really hope it does well.
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2027 Scout Traveler & Terra | Specs, EV Range, Off-Road Capability
ccap41 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Scout
I've gone down the rabbit hole one a couple private equities and what all they own and some of them are meeesssssyyyyyy. -
2027 Scout Traveler & Terra | Specs, EV Range, Off-Road Capability
ccap41 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Scout
If PepBoys was replaced by either AutoZone or Advance Auto, you're saying a service shop(with a retail store (PepBoys)) was replaced by just retail stores? That's the only reason I was suggesting it may not have been AutoZone/Advance. -
2027 Scout Traveler & Terra | Specs, EV Range, Off-Road Capability
ccap41 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Scout
When it was first announced and everything, I thought VW was going to service them and I had no issue with that. There's a VW dealership about 30 minutes away. That would have been just fine with me. Theeeeeen I read they will have their own service centers and for people outside of X miles, they'd have the service come to you. That sounds good and all but I know that isn't for the life of the vehicle and when something isn't covered I'm sure there will be a distance-like service fee attached. Advance and AutoZone are stores though. Maybe there's another service center you're thinking of? Meineke? Yes. Agreed. -
2027 Scout Traveler & Terra | Specs, EV Range, Off-Road Capability
ccap41 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Scout
There are certainly some "in the area", but I really don't know where one is. It's really just a wait and see for Scout, for me. As much as I'd love one, this feels like it may be the biggest hurdle to get over. Price is pretty cut and dry, can I afford it or not? Where or how will I get it serviced, because it isn't set in stone right now, is an issue. I also don't know which I'd get, the SUV or truck? My first instinct says the SUV, but I'd love the bed of a truck. I only need two rows of seats so even if the SUV offered a 3rd row(I haven't looked into or remember if it does or not), I'd leave it flat more likely anyway. Okay, well I googlemaped Pep Boys and they are NOT in the STL area. I feel like they used to be, because I remember the commercials, but they certainly are not anymore.- 15 replies
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Ugh, the uncertainty is that's annoying there. I would just hate to now know, but I understand that's how it goes sometimes.
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Technically, $28 for me, but I'm never on E. It's certainly an extra $15-22 per transaction.
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I certainly think that is debatable. It is horrific that an elementary school was bombed. I also think it is worse to have millions of children in slave-like-labor factories for decades, therefore effecting many many more than the hundreds that were unjustly killed.
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2027 Scout Traveler & Terra | Specs, EV Range, Off-Road Capability
ccap41 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Scout
Hyundai/Kia do have dealerships all over the place though. I wouldn't worry about a service location if I already knew where they were located. The issue with Scout is there are no locations as of right now, that I know of.
