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    Spying: Checking Out the 2018 F-150 Facelift and Diesel Engine


    • Why hello F-150 facelift and diesel engine

    While Ford is introducing an updated 3.5L EcoBoost V6 and ten-speed automatic for the 2017 F-150, the 2018 F-150 is more interesting to us. This is because Ford will be giving their full-size truck a facelift and a diesel engine. Thanks to Car and Driver, we're able to get a closer look via a set of spy shots.

    We'll begin with the facelift. Ford has done a decent job with the camouflage, but we can pick out a new grille design that seems to mimic the F-Series super duty. Expect new headlights, along with new taillights and wheel choices.

    We have reported previously on the venturi exhaust and a video with the noises of a diesel engine . Now we have more proof of the diesel engine. Thanks to a Ford engineer leaving the hood open, we have gotten our first clear look at the diesel engine. We can't tell much about the engine aside from there being a mess of hoses and wires. You might be asking how we know this is a diesel. Two key items give it away; a diesel fuel inlet behind the fuel filler door and a sign taped inside saying"Diesel Fuel Only!"

    Everyone believes the diesel engine in question is a 3.0L turbodiesel V6 that is used in the Range Rover and Range Rover Sport TD6 models. This engine produces 254 horsepower and 440 pound-feet of torque.

    Source: Car and Driver

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    I loved the idea before Ram did it and I love that Ram was the first to do the small/economical yet still useful diesel in their half ton. I would expect nothing less from Ram's competition and that this will also be a great engine choice. I just hope there isn't a ridiculous price jump going from base engine to this one. When it's $4200 more than the base engine and $3100 more than their top engine I don't like that so much. But if that's how they have to price it, I understand. I don't like it, but I understand.

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    Ram needs to update their truck really soon or they'll quickly descend into irrelevance.  They're the oldest truck out there now I think.  Ford adding a light-duty diesel will take away one of the big selling points for Ram. 

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    35 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Ram needs to update their truck really soon or they'll quickly descend into irrelevance.  They're the oldest truck out there now I think.  Ford adding a light-duty diesel will take away one of the big selling points for Ram. 

    If I remember, Ram will be updating/redesign the Ram 1500 for 2018.

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    I suspect the Ram could live on another 10 years with ththe current body and interior.  All it needs is a Hellcat option and a Maserati V6 superlegeraquadfiglio package.  Problem solved.

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    That's probably the plan. Hellcat everything and it hides their shortcomings for another 5-10 years. I'm actually surprised they didn't hellcat the 200 and Dart to make them relevant. Instead they just axed them..weird..

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    This truch just keeps tightening the noose around competitors, and I am not a huge Ford fan. But consider-

    They offer a traditional V8 in addition to their turbo-gas 6's (even though they are more impressive on paper than in reality), they now have a diesel on the way, they have a true hardcore off-road monster, they have a full-on luxury sedanesque equipped halo model, and everything in between. It's no wonder their sales numbers are hard to catch.

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    I just drove a '17 Lariat FX4 w/ the 5.0 a few days ago on a ride and drive event for Nissan, and it S*** on the Titan. I think it had an edge over the Silverado, as well. They're pricing has gotten insane, though.

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    7 hours ago, William Maley said:

    If I remember, Ram will be updating/redesign the Ram 1500 for 2018.

    Meh, diesel. But it should be a mileage champ.

    Compared to the Ram ED: At least 700 lbs lighter, safer, more efficient/powerful diesel engine, more cargo capacity and towing, 10-speed transmission along with stat-stop tech. This truck will beat Ram ED rated 21/29 mpg.

     

    Opps. Not sure how I quoted you. I hit reply at bottom of comments

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    5 minutes ago, FordCosworth said:

    Meh, diesel. But it should be a mileage champ.

    Compared to the Ram ED: At least 700 lbs lighter, safer, more efficient/powerful diesel engine, more cargo capacity and towing, 10-speed transmission along with stat-stop tech. This truck will beat Ram ED rated 21/29 mpg.

     

    Opps. Not sure how I quoted you. I hit reply at bottom of comments

    Yeah, but you're comparing a future Ford product to a current Ram product at the end of its lifecycle. If the Ram will be new for 2018, the same time this F150 diesel arrives, then none of those comparisons you made will matter.

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    Is the ram at the end of its product cycle? It wouldn't surprise me if this goes till 2020 which means it's old but not the end of the cycle. By then Ford and GM will have new $h! again. 

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    Lightweight and 10 speeds with the Diesel should make it the mileage champ. I doubt Ram will top all that with next upgrade.

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    12 hours ago, Guest HoosierDad said:

    Lightweight and 10 speeds with the Diesel should make it the mileage champ. I doubt Ram will top all that with next upgrade.

    Until the next RAM comes out, that is just here-say. They do have their work cut out for them though.

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    I'm not sure how much advantage a 10-speed will have over an (excellent) 8-speed at this point in a diesel. Ford isn't even promising huge gains in fuel economy over the 6-speed in the Gas powered ones.  The gear ratio spread will only be a tiny bit wider for Ford.

    We really are getting to peak gear ratios now.

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    1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    I'm not sure how much advantage a 10-speed will have over an (excellent) 8-speed at this point in a diesel. Ford isn't even promising huge gains in fuel economy over the 6-speed in the Gas powered ones.  The gear ratio spread will only be a tiny bit wider for Ford.

    We really are getting to peak gear ratios now.

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/g6813/10-things-to-know-about-the-new-ford-gm-10-speed-automatic-transmission/

    This was a really neat read on the new trans. I thought it was impressive reading how much shorter their spread is compared to some of the others out there and their mileage claim compared to the others as well.

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    2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/g6813/10-things-to-know-about-the-new-ford-gm-10-speed-automatic-transmission/

    This was a really neat read on the new trans. I thought it was impressive reading how much shorter their spread is compared to some of the others out there and their mileage claim compared to the others as well.

    That's the only puzzling thing about this 10-speed to me.  I almost wonder if there shouldn't be two versions of it... one with a wider spread and one with a normal spread.  The Ecoboost V6es are engines that I believe would really be able to put a wide gear ratio spread to good use. With their torque available way down low they should be able to hold 10th gear at low RPM unlike the 2.4 in the Chryslers.  I can understand keeping the spread normal for a V6 F-150 that isn't an ecoboost... but if you've got the torque, use it. The Camaro ZL-1 I'm sure would do well with a tall 10th gear too. 

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    2 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    That's the only puzzling thing about this 10-speed to me.  I almost wonder if there shouldn't be two versions of it... one with a wider spread and one with a normal spread.  The Ecoboost V6es are engines that I believe would really be able to put a wide gear ratio spread to good use. With their torque available way down low they should be able to hold 10th gear at low RPM unlike the 2.4 in the Chryslers.  I can understand keeping the spread normal for a V6 F-150 that isn't an ecoboost... but if you've got the torque, use it. The Camaro ZL-1 I'm sure would do well with a tall 10th gear too. 

    That was exactly what I thought when I read it as well. I guess for the 5.0 it makes more sense but it will be in more ecoboosts be it 2.7 or 3.5 than 5.0s so I don't really understand it either. But they claim anything past 7.4 wouldn't really benefit for their use..

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      The addition of Selective Catalytic Reduction contributes to lower nitrous oxides. Combined with Bentley’s stop-start system; class-leading CO2 emissions of 210 g/km; and an impressive range of over 1,000 km between fuel stops, this technology puts the Bentayga Diesel at the forefront of advanced engine efficiency.
      Contemporary, Luxurious British Design
      The Bentayga Diesel demonstrates the same authentic and modern British luxury design as its W12-powered stablemate, while also benefitting from a number of unique styling additions.
      A V8 Diesel badge is embedded on the lower front door edge, complemented by a new Bentley ‘twin-quad’ exhaust tailpipe design, which provide a further subtle reminder of the new engine specification. 
      Further distinctive external styling cues include a bold, black matrix grille with chrome surround and central bar, which serves as a signature for the powertrain that lies behind. A new optional Mulliner Driving Specification 21” wheel – available in a silver or grey painted finish (the latter with machined accents to the spoke and rim) – can be specified, with a 20” ten-spoke alloy wheel offered as standard.
      The Bentayga’s cockpit sets new standards for both luxury and precision, with meticulous tolerances between the exquisite veneered woods and metal elements.
      The hand-selected veneers – including a new Liquid Amber finish introduced with Bentayga Diesel – form pure and elegant surfaces throughout the cabin. Each of the 15 pieces are shaped by Bentley’s artisans and finished with trademark Bentley attention to detail.
      As with all Bentleys, the Bentayga Diesel can be handed over to the highly skilled craftspeople at Mulliner, Bentley’s bespoke coachbuilding department, who will respond to individual customer requirements.
      The Bentayga is available with an exquisite integrated Mulliner Hamper Set, complete with refrigerator, bespoke fine Linley china cutlery, crockery and crystal glass, and storage area for dry goods. For comfort in the great outdoors, sections of the hamper can be removed and used as seats.
      A bespoke mechanical Mulliner Tourbillon by Breitling clock can also be specified. The most complex of watch mechanisms, the Mulliner Tourbillon is automatically wound periodically by a dedicated high-precision winding mechanism within the car. This masterpiece is machined in solid gold (customers can select from either rose or white gold), with a choice of either a mother-of-pearl or black ebony face and decorated with eight diamond indexes.
      Effortless Bentley Performance, Unrestrained by Climate or Terrain
      The development programme for the Bentayga has been the most exhaustive in the Bentley brand’s history, ranging across five continents. From the dirt and gravel of South Africa and the dunes of Dubai, to the muddy fields of Cheshire, and from -30°C in the frozen North Cape to searing 50°C desert heat, the Bentayga’s ability to perform on any surface and even in the most extreme conditions has been proven.
      The Bentayga Diesel can be specified with Bentley Dynamic Ride – the world’s first electric active roll control technology that utilises an unrivalled 48V system. Inherent in larger vehicles with a higher centre of gravity, this system instantly counteracts lateral rolling forces when cornering and ensures maximum tyre contact to deliver class-leading cabin stability, ride comfort and exceptional handling.
      Bentley’s adaptive and reactive system provides variable torsional resistance, allowing the Bentayga to be both dynamically capable and comfortable for all occupants at all times. The pioneering use of a 48V system – which on Bentayga Diesel utilises a new lithium-ion battery system to offer even greater reserves of power – results in silent, instantaneous responses to deal with all road surfaces.
      Electric Power-Assisted Steering (EPAS) is also featured on the Bentayga. The new system improves feedback to the driver, while providing isolation from steering kick-back both on- and off-road. EPAS also features a variable rack ratio, permitting light and fast steering while manoeuvring at low speeds, as well as a more subdued response for excellent stability at high speeds.
      The Bentayga Diesel offers class-leading ride comfort, steering feel and handling thanks to the partnership of a highly sophisticated chassis and Electronic Stability Control (ESC). In addition to advanced, multi-mode Traction Control (TCS), the Bentayga also features Hill Descent Control.
      Hill Descent Control automatically regulates the vehicle’s speed on steep declines, allowing the driver to concentrate fully on steering and obstacles ahead. It can be pre-set at speeds between two and 30 km/h (going in either direction) and works on gradients greater than five per cent.
      As with all Bentleys, the Bentayga Diesel comes with multi-mode air suspension. The driver has four different modes to choose from: High 2, High 1, Normal and Low. High 2, for example, can be manually selected when tackling more severe off-road surfaces. Customers can also lower the rear suspension via a switch in the boot, to ease loading and trailer hitching.
      Innovative Features and Advanced Technologies
      A suite of state-of-the-art driver assistance systems and infotainment features designed to enhance safety, comfort and convenience make the Bentayga Diesel an innovative, advanced and connected luxury SUV.
      It offers the widest range of on- and off-road drive settings of any vehicle via Bentley’s Drive Dynamics Mode and optional Responsive Off-Road Settings. Up to eight modes are available, allowing drivers, at the simple turn of a dial, to select the perfect dynamic set-up for any surface or road condition. This versatility is complemented by Bentley Dynamic Ride (electrically activated 48V active roll control) and Electric Power-Assisted Steering (EPAS).
      Responsive Off-Road Settings allows the customer to select the appropriate vehicle settings for a wide range of off-road surfaces, while the Driver Information Panel displays information on pitch, roll, wheel articulation, steering angle, compass bearing and altitude.
      Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) including Stop & Go, Predictive ACC and Traffic Assist enables the driver to maintain a set distance to the vehicle in front. Predictive ACC uses the navigation data, sensors and cameras to predict upcoming corners, city boundaries and speed-limit changes and can then modify the vehicle speed accordingly, improving both comfort and fuel economy.
      In urban environments, there are a number of driver aids available on the Bentayga Diesel. These systems – such as Traffic Sign Recognition, which detects a wide variety of traffic signs and displays information to the driver; Rear Crossing Traffic Warning, which uses radar technology to detect crossing traffic when reversing out of a parking space; and Top View, a system which uses four cameras to display an overall picture of the vehicle’s surroundings – combine to enhance everyday usability.
      Park Assist is also available – a system that detects suitable parking spaces (both parallel and perpendicular) before autonomous steering takes over to support parking manoeuvres, even in narrow and tricky spaces.
      Other innovative systems available include Electronic Night Vision, which uses infra-red technology to identify potential obstacles ahead, and a Head-Up Display, which reduces driver distraction and increases safety.
      The Bentayga’s eight-inch touch screen infotainment system boasts class-leading navigation technology, a 60GB hard drive, and a choice of up to 30 languages.
      Rear seat passengers benefit from the introduction of the Bentley Entertainment Tablet – a removable 10.2” Android device with 4G, WiFi and Bluetooth for effortless, high-speed on-board connectivity.
      Customers can choose between three different sound systems for the Bentayga Diesel: Bentley Standard Audio, Bentley Signature Audio and Naim for Bentley Premium Audio. The latter is the most powerful system in the segment, with 1,950 watts, a network of 18 speakers and super-tweeters for unrivalled recreation of the highest audio frequencies.
      Customer deliveries will begin in Europe early next year, with entry into Russia, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Taiwan planned across the rest of 2017.
      echnical Specification
      Engine
      Type
      4-litre Twin turbo with E Supercharger direct injection V8
      Max Power
      435 PS / 429 bhp / 320 kW @ 3750-5000 rpm
      Max Torque
      900 Nm / 664 lb.ft @1000-3250 rpm
      Transmission
      Driveline
      ZF eight-speed automatic gearbox, permanent all-wheel drive, Torsen centre differential, open rear differential, 40:60 front:rear torque split
      Ratios
      1st: 4.714; 2nd: 3.143; 3rd: 2.106; 4th: 1.667; 5th: 1.285; 6th: 1.000; 7th: 0.839; 8th: 0.667
      Final Drive
      3.308
      Brakes, Wheels and Tyres
      Front Brakes
      400mm ventilated iron discs
      Rear Brakes
      380mm ventilated iron discs
      Wheels
      Standard 20”, optional 21” and 22”
      Tyres
      Pirelli 275/50R20, 285/45 R21, 285/45 ZR21, 285/40ZR22
      Steering
      Type
      Electronic Power Assisted Steering, variable ratio
      Turns lock-to-lock
      2.3 turns
      Turning circle
      12.4 m / 40.6 ft
      Suspension
      Front
      Four link double wishbones, optional 48V electric active anti-roll bar
      Rear
      Trapezoidal multi-link, optional 48V electric active anti-roll bar
      Springs and dampers
      Self-levelling air suspension, Continuous Damping Control
      Dimensions
      Wheelbase
      2995 mm / 117.9”
      Overall length
      5140 mm / 202.4”
      Width (across body)
      1998 mm / 78.7”
      Width (inc. mirrors)
      2224 mm / 87.6”
      Overall height
      1742 mm / 68.6”
      Fuel tank
      85 litres / 18.7 UK gallons / 22.5 US gallons
      Boot volume
      430 litres / 15.2 cu ft (590 litres / 20.8 cu ft load cover retracted)
      Kerb weight (EU)
      2390 kg / 5269 lb
      Gross vehicle weight
      3250 kg / 7165 lb
      Performance - provisional and subject to Type Approval
      Top speed
      168 mph / 270 km/h
      0-60 mph
      4.6 secs
      0-100 km/h
      4.8 secs
      Fuel Consumption (EU cycle) - provisional and subject to Type Approval
      Urban
      31.3 mpg / 9.0 litres/100 km
      Extra Urban
      38.2 mpg / 7.4 litres/100 km
      Combined
      35.8 mpg / 7.9 litres/100 km
      CO2 emissions
      210 g/km
      Emissions Controls
      EU 6
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