GM and PSA Announce Four New Co-Developed Platforms

Seems the merge is on in Europe.

This move probably just saved Opel/Vauxhall and possibly even Holden as a brand.

2016 - That is when EP III should be coming anyways.

2016 - That is when EP III should be coming anyways.

Sounds about right. We should get one last refresh out of the current Lacrosse which I believe is the oldest EpsyDos car on the market at the moment. The 2014 EpsyDos is the Impala.

Yes, Lacrosse was the first EP II car.

But if there is truly a better platform, why not move forward sooner to lead the asian and euro brands rather than equal of follow.

GM needs to truly do everything they can to jump ahead and build up some serious cash.

Probably because the platforms aren't done yet. Though I wonder what GM has up their sleeve. I am curious if there is either A) another larger FWD platform hanging around out there we don't know about yet or B) much larger use of alpha than we currently expect or C) much larger use of Omega than we currently expect. I really can't see GM using a Euro sized mid-size platform shared with Citroen to move the Lacrosse up in status or replace Epsydos under the Impala.

Probably because the platforms aren't done yet. Though I wonder what GM has up their sleeve. I am curious if there is either A) another larger FWD platform hanging around out there we don't know about yet or B) much larger use of alpha than we currently expect or C) much larger use of Omega than we currently expect. I really can't see GM using a Euro sized mid-size platform shared with Citroen to move the Lacrosse up in status or replace Epsydos under the Impala.

I wonder if this GM/PSA platform could end up being a global platform on the scale of what VW is doing where you can build a wide range of auto's on it and sell it to less funded companies who want to use it to build their own auto's.

I wonder if this GM/PSA platform could end up being a global platform on the scale of what VW is doing where you can build a wide range of auto's on it and sell it to less funded companies who want to use it to build their own auto's.

Now that's a thought! If GM and PSA did co-develop something equivalent to VW's MQB platform, it could underpin basically everything from the Sonic to the Malibu/Regal and possibly even the LaCrosse/Impala. Not to mention the next Encore and Theta replacements. Then, hopefully GM would use Alpha which should be flexible enough for several Cadillac's (hopefully the next SRX again), Camaro, and whatever other small RWD vehicles they have worked up.

2016 - That is when EP III should be coming anyways.

Only an eight-year run for EPII? Seems sudden. But if this is a lightening program, then full speed ahead.

2016 - That is when EP III should be coming anyways.

Only an eight-year run for EPII? Seems sudden. But if this is a lightening program, then full speed ahead.

The Impala is getting it in 2014 and will probably have a 6-10 year run on it, so I'm sure the platform will go well beyond 2016... maybe EpsyDos for the 'larger' FWD models and EpsyTres will be for the smaller higher volume midsizers (Malibu, Regal, Insignia, etc)...

2016 - That is when EP III should be coming anyways.

Only an eight-year run for EPII? Seems sudden. But if this is a lightening program, then full speed ahead.

It is one of the heaviest platforms in the class, it needs to be replaced.

2016 - That is when EP III should be coming anyways.

Only an eight-year run for EPII? Seems sudden. But if this is a lightening program, then full speed ahead.

It is one of the heaviest platforms in the class, it needs to be replaced.

Yeah, a diet is in order...

I wonder if this GM/PSA platform could end up being a global platform on the scale of what VW is doing where you can build a wide range of auto's on it and sell it to less funded companies who want to use it to build their own auto's.

Now that's a thought! If GM and PSA did co-develop something equivalent to VW's MQB platform, it could underpin basically everything from the Sonic to the Malibu/Regal and possibly even the LaCrosse/Impala. Not to mention the next Encore and Theta replacements. Then, hopefully GM would use Alpha which should be flexible enough for several Cadillac's (hopefully the next SRX again), Camaro, and whatever other small RWD vehicles they have worked up.

If GM can come up with two standardized global platforms that loose weight and offer the right balance of strength, rigidity and flexibility, They could do well then to have this cover their FWD appliances and RWD appliances and then sell it to less funded auto companies who need a diverse platform to build cars on.

If GM can come up with two standardized global platforms that loose weight and offer the right balance of strength, rigidity and flexibility, They could do well then to have this cover their FWD appliances and RWD appliances and then sell it to less funded auto companies who need a diverse platform to build cars on.

Yep! I think that how 'co-developed' should be interpreted here: GM does the bulk of the platform engineering work, PSA adapts to their needs.

If GM can come up with two standardized global platforms that loose weight and offer the right balance of strength, rigidity and flexibility, They could do well then to have this cover their FWD appliances and RWD appliances and then sell it to less funded auto companies who need a diverse platform to build cars on.

Yep! I think that how 'co-developed' should be interpreted here: GM does the bulk of the platform engineering work, PSA adapts to their needs.

Add in the merge of Opel into PSA so a reduction of capacity and expense as you go with the global platform that PSA can use to build and sell quality auto's. GM uses to build and sell quality auto's everywhere and the cost goes down allowing more people to afford an auto.