Jump to content
Create New...
  • 💬 Join the Conversation

    CnG Logo SQ 2023 RedBlue FavIcon300w.png
    Since 2001, Cheers & Gears has been the go-to hub for automotive enthusiasts. Join today to access our vibrant forums, upload your vehicle to the Garage, and connect with fellow gearheads around the world.

     

  • Drew Dowdell
    Drew Dowdell

    GM Recalling 3.46 Million Trucks For Brake Issues

      ...A vacuum pump failure could make it harder to stop...

    General Motors announced a recall Wednesday of 3.46 million GM trucks and SUVs for a braking issue that has been linked to 113 accidents and 13 injuries.  The problem arises from a vacuum pump issue where the pump make less vacuum over time, thereby increasing the braking effort. The pump is lubricated by engine oil and can accumulate debris and oil sludge lessening the pump's effectiveness.

    The recall covered model years 2014 - 2018 of Cadillac Escalade, Chevrolet Silverado, Suburban, and Tahoe, and GMC Sierra and Yukon. 

    GM told the NHTSA that the pump design was only used during those years of manufacture. 

    In a smaller recall, GM is recalling 177,000 2018 Chevrolet Malibus with the 1.5-liter Turbo engine where an error in the engine control computer could disable the fuel injectors. 

    User Feedback

    Recommended Comments

    I heard GM engineers fixed this in early 2017. I have an '18 K2 Silvy Crew Z71 4x4 built 9/18 that is not a part of the recall with my VIN, according to NHTSA and I haven't had any issues. I have a buddy with a late 2017 Silvy with no issues and is not a part of the recall and a sister with a 2015 Tahoe with no problems, but will get it looked at. I would venture to say that half or more of the 113 accidents are distracted drivers that needed an excuse to get out of the liability of a rear-ender bender because they were on the phone or worse yet, texting. Really not bad that out of 3.4 Mil trucks and SUV's since 2014 that there are only 113 "claimed brake failure" accidents. I think our MSM just gets bored and needs the next big headline because it was all over every News outlet yesterday...meanwhile at Ford multiple widespread problems with their cash-cow SUV's...https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/2020-ford-explorer-has-top-secret-problems-disrupting-dealer-delivery/ar-AAHfr3m?li=BBnb7Kz

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    1 hour ago, USA-1 Vortec 6.2 said:

    I heard GM engineers fixed this in early 2017. I have an '18 K2 Silvy Crew Z71 4x4 built 9/18 that is not a part of the recall with my VIN, according to NHTSA and I haven't had any issues. I have a buddy with a late 2017 Silvy with no issues and is not a part of the recall and a sister with a 2015 Tahoe with no problems, but will get it looked at. I would venture to say that half or more of the 113 accidents are distracted drivers that needed an excuse to get out of the liability of a rear-ender bender because they were on the phone or worse yet, texting. Really not bad that out of 3.4 Mil trucks and SUV's since 2014 that there are only 113 "claimed brake failure" accidents. I think our MSM just gets bored and needs the next big headline because it was all over every News outlet yesterday...meanwhile at Ford multiple widespread problems with their cash-cow SUV's...https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/2020-ford-explorer-has-top-secret-problems-disrupting-dealer-delivery/ar-AAHfr3m?li=BBnb7Kz

    Yeah, we have an article about it here.

     

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    You wonder if they know this stuff is faulty and sell it anyway or if they just don't test this stuff up front and then learn 4 years later that it doesn't work.  You'd think with the massive profit margins on GM's big trucks they would put more money into the R&D and testing side to make sure they got everything right before putting it on sale.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Yeah, we have an article about it here.

     

     

    35 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    You wonder if they know this stuff is faulty and sell it anyway or if they just don't test this stuff up front and then learn 4 years later that it doesn't work.  You'd think with the massive profit margins on GM's big trucks they would put more money into the R&D and testing side to make sure they got everything right before putting it on sale.

    Nah, that's what Ford does (see above) talk about lack of funding for R&D.

    GM spends a ton of cash on R&D, especially on their full-size trucks and SUV's and this brake booster issue with GM trucks is not faulty equipment, it's mostly a software bug and debris from dirty engine oil (sludge) from a poorly maintained engine can get in the booster pump valves. It's blown out of proportion, 113 out of 3.4 mil trucks/SUV's isn't a normal Recall threshold, but GM dealers are instructed by GM to update the program software and/or replace parts if need be just to be safe. All the bad or distracted drivers out there and the sue happy society we live in doesn't help either.  

    • Like 1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    13 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Still shouldn't be making excuses for brake failures. Look how many people actually had issues with the GM key thing in relation to how many cars were sold. 

    Not excuses, just the facts of the issue at hand. I know several people with these trucks and SUV's with zero problems, that's the reason I said distracted drivers are probably half of the claims, late on the brakes whether working at full power or not is never a good thing.

    The ignition switch debacle was one senior engineer making the call to continue on with the poor ignition switch design without bringing the GM board into it, he kept it under wraps, he and anyone else involved should be in prison for a long time. 

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    On 9/13/2019 at 8:50 PM, smk4565 said:

    You wonder if they know this stuff is faulty and sell it anyway or if they just don't test this stuff up front and then learn 4 years later that it doesn't work.  You'd think with the massive profit margins on GM's big trucks they would put more money into the R&D and testing side to make sure they got everything right before putting it on sale.

    I wonder that too.

    Screen Shot 2019-09-16 at 6.05.45 PM.png

    • Haha 2
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites



    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
    Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

    Guest
    Add a comment...

    ×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

      Only 75 emoji are allowed.

    ×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

    ×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

    ×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




  • Support Real Automotive Journalism

    Cheers and Gears Logo

    Since 2001, Cheers & Gears has delivered real content and honest opinions — not emotionless AI output or manufacturer-filtered fluff.

    If you value independent voices and authentic reviews, consider subscribing. Plans start at just $2.25/month, and paid members enjoy an ad-light experience.*

    You can view subscription options here.

    *a very limited number of ads contain special coupon deals for our members and will show

  • Similar Content

  • Posts

    • Very cool Tech of how a plant can help make the world a better place.   This we need to stop as Idiot47 has been supporting this company. Fascist in more ways than one. Police camera system tracking billions of license plates causes some pushback | Watch
    • First, the rental companies should be telling you the recommended app if needed. Second, especially for europe, google maps has tied in with the charging companies to tell you where and what the statis is on charging, much the same that Google, EA, Chargepoing and EVgo has done here. The other thing you can inquire about is that much like the toll roads on the east coast where you can pay a fee to use one that is added to the auto rental so you just drive through the good to go lanes, from what I am seeing online, there are at some places the same kind of thing. Prepay for charging. But inquire of the rental company in the location you are at. Lots of good online info for when you visit a country. Routes for electric car travel in Spain | sustainability.spain.info Use an app like this to find charging stations in another country. Place to Plug | Charging points map in Spain Using Spain as an example since I was there most recently in Madrid for work and renting an EV and charging was not a problem.   This makes allot of sense. Concern Trump may try to flee the US in 2028 | Opinion OUCH, Tariff Turd47 is an idiot in not understanding the the Global world we live in and not understanding technology. Stuck in the past. German automakers get knocked down by U.S. tariffs
    • Vertical and blocky...needs quarter windows to break up those huge C-pillars, IMO...
    • As you know, when you go to rent cars, they are giving the electric ones to customers at a lower price. This brings me to some rentals in the prospective year that are offering the same kind of price structure.  The electric ones are much more nicely priced. If going to a place like Italy, Spain and Portugal, how would I get a comprehensive list of charging stations ... basically a locator? How would I ensure that they are the baseline station ... meaning one that the more basic econobox brands can charge up at?  Lastly, I don't have debit cards or those linked banking payment systems they have over there.  How do I find out if I need an app or if I can just pay with a credit card at at the site? Reddit is really messy and about three quarters of it is mud flinging garbage, but one person said not to get an electric car when in a less developed area while on vacation so that you don't encounter that stressor.  What do you think about that? If I could get some brief direction on this, I'd appreciate it.
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • My Clubs

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.

Hey there, we noticed you're using an ad-blocker. We're a small site that is supported by ads or subscriptions. We rely on these to pay for server costs and vehicle reviews.  Please consider whitelisting us in your ad-blocker, or if you really like what you see, you can pick up one of our subscriptions for just $1.75 a month or $15 a year. It may not seem like a lot, but it goes a long way to help support real, honest content, that isn't generated by an AI bot.

See you out there.

Drew
Editor-in-Chief

Write what you are looking for and press enter or click the search icon to begin your search