TOYOTA in DECLINE

[regfootball]

Wow, it looks like the Toyota PR team will have to work overtime to cover up all the crap happening now.

Maybe sales will take a hit, maybe not. There are plenty of stupid Americans that won't acknowledge that Toyota can fk up too.

Which car maker is most poised to take advantage of buyers leaving Toyota in droves and why?

Edited July 13, 2006 by regfootball

[Drew Dowdell]

have sales started to drop? This news is all of a week old.... if it doesn't get much major press coverage, the general public won't even notice.

That said, Hyundai and Honda will benefit most on the lower end. GM and BMW most on the high end.

[CARBIZ]

I wouldn't be popping the champagne just yet. Even with the rash of growing pains, until the apologists at CR and other major media outlets stop justifying and "spinning" what is happening over at Toyota, it will mean nothng to the general public or to sales.

Any Business 101 course will tell you that it is easy to bake the same bread over and over; it is much harder to keep the same consistency when you switch to muffins, croissants and buns.

Look at what GM really built in the early 1960s, at its zenith: one type of Chevy (and the Corvette), one type of Pontiac, one type of Buick, etc. Remember: the Impala, Biscayne, etc. were all just window dressings of the same vehicle. Then, as the '60s progressed, they added the Corvair, the Tempest, then more vans and more 4X4s - well, we all know where that has ended up. Yet, GM isn't selling any more cars than it did 45 years ago, just lots more flavors to make the same volume.

Is it any wonder the troubles began to start as GM added more models?

Fast forward to the 21st Century: Toyota, awash with media accolades and rapid growth, has also branched into many brands and models. Each layer of complexity brining their own challenges and surprises.

Welcome to the real car world, Toyota.

[ehaase]

Toyota is strong, getting stronger. Hoping for a decline is just wishful thinking at this time.

[I hope GMRULES again]

Toyota is not in decline and these latest recalls and some bad news are not even a speed bump for them.

[Newbiewar]

Toyota is not in decline and these latest recalls and some bad news are not even a speed bump for them.

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but its a good indication to see what will come in the future, its apparent that toyota cant manage the volume...

[toyoguy]

but its a good indication to see what will come in the future, its apparent that toyota cant manage the volume...

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really cause CR, and JD Power say otherwise.

Lexus and Toyota Together Capture 11 of 19 Initial Quality Model Awards

http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/rele....asp?ID=2006082

Consumer Reports: Lexus #1, Toyota #3

http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/01/Autos/carr...ility/index.htm

Toyota protecting itself from trial lawyers has little to do w/reliability

[Drew Dowdell]

really cause CR, and JD Power say otherwise.

Lexus and Toyota Together Capture 11 of 19 Initial Quality Model Awards

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[ToniCipriani]

really cause CR, and JD Power say otherwise.

Lexus and Toyota Together Capture 11 of 19 Initial Quality Model Awards

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And don't get us started on CR...

[I hope GMRULES again]

but its a good indication to see what will come in the future, its apparent that toyota cant manage the volume...

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Things will average out in the end. As they grow and grow they'll have lots of recalls just like GM.