Got Those Hardtop Blues?

[Guest YellowJacket894]

Toyota has the cure.

[Drew Dowdell]

Ya know... technically, GM had a line of cars with hardtops from 1979-1985. Just the back window didn't go down.

The '79-'85 E-bodies did NOT have a B-pillar.

[Drew Dowdell]

But strangely.... you could add a b-pillar if you wanted the Landau look.

My 1985 Toronado looked just like this except in all black.

the B-pillar can be removed with just 2 screws.

Edited May 4, 2007 by Oldsmoboi

[Guest YellowJacket894]

Like I said in the Camaro-and-B-pillars thread: My S-10 doesn't have a B-pillar ... so is it a hardtop?

[Drew Dowdell]

Like I said in the Camaro-and-B-pillars thread: My S-10 doesn't have a B-pillar ... so is it a hardtop?

You don't have frameless glass... so no.

[balthazar]

>>"My S-10 doesn't have a B-pillar ... so is it a hardtop? "<<

No- it's a coupe technically (no quarter windows), but the fact that it's a truck with an open bed supercedes that, so it's a... truck.

Even if the S-10 had frameless glass, it would not be a hardtop- it's window/pillar configurations that determine the classification.

[Ravenfreak13]

I got the hardtop joys!

[Sixty8panther]

I suppose if I HAD to own a Toyota I'd rather have a 2-dr hardtop

Corolla with RWD & a 5-speed. At least they still tried to make a

hardtop in 1982 when everyone except for M.B. & Nissan gave up.

Althought the whole side-impact argument quadroples in this case,

ever seen the crashworthyness of one of these Corollas? I would

think the think sheetmetal & weak unbody on his Corolla means it

breaks in half in a nasty T-bone.

If I was going to buy a Japanese hardtop I'd want a Datsun.

[Sixty8panther]

And NO the E-body's did not have a solid, thick B-pillar but they are

NOT 100% true hardtops since their 1/4 windows do not go down.

I agree that they look much better without the cumbersome B-pillar.

The 2nd gen. Chrysler Cordoba & its Dodge brother had the same

type of greenhouse... but still not rear window mechanism.

[Flybrian]

Why does every mid-70s Japanese car look welfare-y?

[HarleyEarl]

Hardtops make me hard.

[HarleyEarl]

I got thinking, what was the last true hardtop made by GM?

[HarleyEarl]

2007 Mercedes CL 600 hardtop coupe...

[Drew Dowdell]

I got thinking, what was the last true hardtop made by GM?

Pontiac G6?

[HarleyEarl]

I appears that the 1978 Chrysler Newport and New Yorkers were

the last American true pillarless hardtops made.

[Guest YellowJacket894]

You don't have frameless glass... so no.

>>"My S-10 doesn't have a B-pillar ... so is it a hardtop? "<<

No- it's a coupe technically (no quarter windows), but the fact that it's a truck with an open bed supercedes that, so it's a... truck.

Even if the S-10 had frameless glass, it would not be a hardtop- it's window/pillar configurations that determine the classification.

You guys know that was my attempt at a joke ... right?

Edited May 5, 2007 by YellowJacket894

[Z-06]

You guys know that was my attempt at a joke ... right?

Umm, Really?

[Sixty8panther]

1976 four door B-bodys were the last hardtops made by GM.

There's a small chance I may own one within a week or so.

The G6 does NOT count, it's a retractible hardtop.

[Guest YellowJacket894]

Umm, Really?

Really.

[knightfan26917]

1976 four door B-bodys were the last hardtops made by GM.

The 1977 versions were not hardtops?

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[bobo]

The 1977 versions were not hardtops?

'77 was the first year of the boxy downsized model.

[ocnblu]

Yeah, the '77s were all sedans, with framed door glass and B-pillars. Sixty8 mentioned the '76 fullsize GM four-doors as the last GM hardtops... what about the 2-doors? In the restyle for '74, they had a slim, frameless quarter glass in addition to the larger, fixed quarter glass. Did that small window go down, or was it fixed?

[Sixty8panther]

O.B.

I do not beleive it went down at all.... was it not glued in

same as the small glass in the C-pillar of the 4drs was?

[ocnblu]

Here's a picture of a '74 Bonneville 2 door hardtop coupe:

The small quarter glass is down in this photo from the brochure of that year.

Edited May 6, 2007 by ocnblu

[knightfan26917]

'77 was the first year of the boxy downsized model.

Ah, yes ... indeed.

My bad ... and apologies. I was thinking of something else ... heh.

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