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Well it looks like most auto's will see a 2K to 3K price increase for those that are mostly made with parts in America, but others will see a 4K to 15K price increase. Most auto companies are rushing out 2026 models early as they put the price increase there rather than anger Idiot47 by calling the tariff what it is, a taxation on Americans. Trumps 25% Tariff Impact on the Auto Industry

See @ccap41 post about the number of EV9 recalls. Last I checked, they are not ICE. And data from the last ten years would suggest your opinion about Honda vs Toyota to be off as well. Doesn’t matter though. You made the post for one reason. To troll Toyota.

Having recalls does not equate to reliable or unreliable. Those things are not mutually exclusive. A vehicle can be reliable with a ton of recalls or completely unreliable with zero recalls. A post isn't complete without a political statement by David.

@trinacriabob Seeing her here singing the song, this is so proper for our current situation.

So proper for our messed up Democracy today! Awesome unique voice, I also thought it was a guy the first time I heard this song.

Lucky me, the American EV9s that have been built does not affect me. Fasteners on the second and third row chairs was not an issue, I had them torqued just fine. Instrument cluster issue never affected me, but I got the software update and still no issue. I do not use the smart parking assist feature nor does my wife, we got the software update fix on our last service visit. My interior ceiling panel was not one of the affected recalled units. Seat Belt retractor issue was also not an issue as it did not affect my EV9 as part of that recall. Driveline differential unit was inspected and found torqued to the right spec. Not an issue. I suspect that the reason my EV9 has not been affected by the recalls is it was part of the initial launch units which Kia spent I believe more time on making sure everything was right before shipping from Korea. I know that a Gen 1 unit can have it's issues, but so far, been one of the most reliable autos I have owned, especially being a Gen 1 unit. The whole point in posting about Toyota is that if @A Horse With No Name wants a Rav4 Hybrid or older ICE version, that is fine with me and his choice. I just want to point out the recalls and make sure he does his due diligence to ensure that any issues are addressed before one buy new or used. That goes for you @ccap41 or @surreal1272 or anyone here, even @ocnblu as I would not want anyone to get a lemon or buy and have to deal with expensive repairs. No one deserves to have to deal with that. Happy 4th to everyone as I hope you can find solitude in the destruction of our democracy.

Yes Kia has plenty of Recalls and I would NOT recommend any ICE product from them. Honda has also had plenty of recalls, but I would actually say more reliable than Toyota in the last Decade. The Honda Prologue I made them aware of the issue when they bought this last weekend. Overall, they are very happy with it and understand that software updates are a thing that will happen as Honda has committed to have quarterly updates. We will see how it goes. Overall, still loving my EV9 and how solid it has been. Yes, a few weird glitches in the software, but the latest update from Kia seems to have fixed it.

Shooooot, his own EV9 has recalls. But you'd never know it from him. bEtTeR wAtCh OuT fOr Ev9's

Shall I provide a list of competing Kia recalls (including ones from MY OWN Kia Sorento) @G. David Felt? How about we start this instead? Hope you informed your friends about this on their Honda Prologue with the same "vigor" that you put out those recalls on the RVA 4. https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-corporate/releases/release-410d07897fdd63d8043cb72750086bf1-2024-honda-prologue-control-link-recall

"Most" of the competition, not "more" Autocorrect lol.

Yet, still more reliable (overall) than more of the competition, which is easily verifiable btw but you have to get in your "once a month" Toyota dig I guess.

"Don't you know you better run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run ... run" I think she says "run" 10 times in each refrain. For years, I though the singer was a man with a high voice. One of a kind.

Just be careful, the quality like many has issues if you buy used especially. I have a friend who whole family has been Toyota for generations and their extended family in Mongolia has been Toyota and lately they have had issues with their Rav4's. Just traded it in on a Honda Prologue. They were tired of the repairs. Currently, there are recalls affecting certain 2024 Toyota RAV4 vehicles due to issues with brake caliper bolts that may not be properly tightened, posing a risk of brake failure. Details of Current Recalls 2024 Toyota RAV4 Recall: Issue: Some vehicles may have bolts that secure the front brake caliper and wheel hub bearing improperly tightened. This can lead to potential detachment of the brake caliper or front wheels, increasing the risk of a crash due to reduced braking performance or loss of vehicle control. 2 Action: Toyota dealers will inspect and tighten the affected bolts free of charge. If any components are damaged, they will be replaced at no cost to the owner. Notifications to owners began in early February 2025. 2 2 Sources Additional Recalls: 2013-2018 RAV4: A recall was issued for certain models due to battery issues that could lead to a short circuit and potential fire risk. This recall involved over 1.8 million vehicles and required replacement of the battery hold-down clamp and related components. 1 2020-2021 RAV4 Hybrid: There was also a recall related to airbag deployment issues, which required inspection and potential replacement of the Occupant Classification System sensor. 1

Back reading this, the RAV 4 would be worth my time to consider for 2026.

I am surprised they are doing that well. Interesting.

Europe and China have shown huge monthly decreases in sales based on monthly recording of registrations. This coming Wednesday we will see the quarterly reporting worldwide for Tesla. The head of global sales has quit and left taking the blame for falling sales which should fall on Musk. Analyst are calling for a further 11% reduction in sales by Tesla with a full year decline of 8% Tesla quarterly deliveries seen falling again

Someone needs to take over the mantle of Tesla. How badly are Tesla's sales actually cratering? Love the color combination.

We'll some will say it is a joke, others will say it defines the current situation of DC. When a clown moves into a palace he doesn't become a king, the palace instead becomes a circus. - Turkish proverb

Very cool news, Rivian is partnering with Ionna and WeaveGrid for expanded charging. WeaveGrid and Rivian Collaborate to Deliver Advanced Grid-Integrated Charging Solutions | WeaveGrid Rivians Will Get Seamless Plug-And-Charge At Ionna Stations

If going by the story about live of the battery having 64% left based on their degradation, then that would be a 36% decrease in battery storage. I honestly do not think the battery degradation would be that great. We are also at the early stages of battery technology.

Is 20% greater than or less than 64% degradation?

I went to Lowes to get a few things to help a friend with an electrical project. 50 feet of Romex, 4 boxes, and a few other small items came to $129. If anyone thinks inflation isn't real and a problem, they are stoned. Also, the place is is always swamped on Sundays, it was a ghost town. Attractive Steam Locomotive.

I find my self looking for the indicator in the fuel gauge often, 50/50 in my household...Jeep and Equinox fuel door on the driver's side, Mustang and Cadillac on the passenger side. And the releases are all different... button on the lower left dash on the Jeep, push in on the fuel door w/ the Equinox, button in the glove box on the Mustang, remote for the Cadillac.

First random thought: It always makes for a sigh of relief when they hand me the keys to a Malibu Second random thought: I'm irritated by fuel tank filler doors that are not on the same side as the driver's door

No tough corner, it is amazing to think you feel there is no degradation in a 20yr old ICE auto. I know that both EV and ICE wear out, battery packs will outlive the actual EV and ICE auto. At this point we do not have enough data to know if the EV motors will lose as much hp/torque as an ICE does over 20yrs of use and depending on how an auto is cared for it can be big changes or minimal changes. I know my Escalade is in much better shape than most and being it is garage kept; it is out of the elements and sun just like my EV is. With that, I also know I have two oil leaks after 200,000 plus miles. The oil pan and another leak that I suspect is at the input of the transmission to the engine. Both are so minimal that the thousands it costs to repair the gaskets does not justify the expense. I can also tell you that the response of the V8 is NOT what it was when it was new. I do not expect the EV to be the same after 200,000 miles either. No corner here to worry about, both autos will wear out, I can also say that my Escalade does not get the 15 mpg it got new and now averages 12 mpg. A 20% decrease in MPG after 200,000 miles of use and 19 years old. With out a compression test, I could not tell you how worn the rings are, though since I have only ever used synthetic in the engine, I would have to think it is minimal as I do not burn any oil, but the overall engine has wear and tear and it is clearly tired in comparison to a new motor. End result is as the original story stated, the EV battery pack will outlive the auto and that will outlive most ICE auto's as while we have the average age now just a little over 12yrs old, most ICE are not on the road after 20 years.