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I did 19 hours after working an 8 hour day, no naps.. just starbucks and 5 hour energy. I stayed up another 12 hours after I arrived out of necessity. I was incoherent by the end of that.... not that any of you would be able to tell the difference.

And honestly, now that I'm older, I can't go more than 2 hours behind the wheel without stopping to pee. I'm sure part of it is the sheer amount of Starbucks Earl Gray I consume on a trip... but stil. Once most rest stops and starbucks have charging stations, it won't be an issue... just waiting in line for my Venti Earl Gray would get me another 700 miles of range.

One thing that is frequently ignored is that charging is different than filling up.... it requires a different mentality. Most people fill up their car one of two ways... either they fill the tank, or they fill to a specific dollar amount because that is all their budget allows. They rarely, if ever, fill up with gas just enough to get them to the next planned filling station. In an EV, you don't have to, and indeed should not fill up when you're out and about. The reason being that going from zero to full every time shortens the life of your battery. Secondly, if you're using a pay charging station, the price per kWh is substantially higher than charging at home. Third, if you don't need 300 miles of range to get to your next stop with a charger, what are you doing sitting around waiting till you have 300 miles of range? If you're 25 miles from home, put it on the charger long enough to get you to 50 miles of range (that's 15 minutes if you're at dead zero in a Bolt and at a DC fast charger) If you've got 12 miles of range left and you need to go 25 and want to get there quickly, putting the Bolt on a DC fast charger for 5 minutes will get you home. You do not have to hang around for an hour an a half to get the full range back. Just get what will get you to your next planned stop.

I thought he meant me because I say that I like the Bolt, but I want a Buick version with more luxury amenities.... and my current Buick has a mocha interior.

"1 in 5 want to buy an EV", but only 1 in 85 do currently. Surveys.

The only way you are correct is taking into account the charging network. As that starts to reach critical mass, I think we'll see a yuuge shift towards EVs.

I would think the only cost that is relevant to departments is how does compare in cost to a comparable Ford Interceptor utility? This isn't the 80s where police vehicles had manual windows and vinyl bench seats..

LoL...I did about 50 hrs behind the wheel...2099 miles. (I did stop for catnaps, bathroom breaks for me and the critters, etc).

Ohhhh Okay, I see what you mean then. Makes sense.

Because that's what they build the most of. Economies of scale.

Probably just taking a mid-level Durango and copifying it. I wonder why it's a limited time only thing. Police Departments are moving to SUVs as fast as the rest of the buying public. Next up, Traverse PPV?

I only go to Starbucks that have a drive thru.. though on my insane cross country drive last year, I fueled up on McDonalds or Dunkin Donuts coffee and 5-hr energy shots.

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Tesla at least will sell you upgraded battery packs as long as you trade in your old battery. I assume that the other manufacturers will see this as a profit center soon.

I can understand that for everyone and while the apps are good at showing you options, less populated areas means you need to plan which I can understand is inconvenient for some people compared to others. Yup bigger battery packs and as charging stations get installed it will get better. Thank you @ccap41 and @Cubical-aka-Moltar for an outstanding discussion.

Quaint....thing is, most of my shopping is on Amazon and other online retailers, so content comes to me, rather than going to a mall or big box store like it's 1995.... the charge at home option seems most viable for me were I to go down the EV path eventually..

I looked up on Plug Share, most in NE Ohio seem to be at car dealers w/ limited hours, some at hotels. One at a Dunkin Donuts near me. Still, pretty inconvenient in general compared to the ubiquity of gas stations. I'm sure it will be better in 10-15 years.

Yes, I most certainly have looked up charging stations and they're ridiculously inconvenient still. My town, there's one at a public area that I don't just go hang out at and the other one on the map is pointing to a roundabout(?).. there isn't one there. Next places I don't go to hang out just got the heck of it are banks, city halls, movie theater, or a parking lot that is away from places I would be shopping at anyway. Change in mindset is different than inconveniencing us. i just think it is worded like a political news broadcast where they're making it sound way better and nicer than it really is for their personal agenda, making EVs sound better than they are.

I agree, most charging will occur at people's homes, especially when the EVs will have longer ranges with better batteries. This will work well for suburbs but I am not sure how that will work for people living in the cities. I have lived in NYC and unless there will be electric charging station every 30ft on a sidewalks EVs are not happening for people living in the big cities. As of right now at least 60% of US population lives in big cities. Europe is in even worse situation. Whoever saw where and how people park in cities like Rome, Paris etc. will understand.

Lucky for us that there are already denser battery packs that we will see show up in new auto's over the next 18 months and with Solid State Battery Development, we should see 500 mile range packs by 2030 or 11 1/2 years from now if not sooner. We are in a fast changing landscape. Hold onto your socks as we charge into the future.

Next generation Escape wit supposed plug-in hybrid could be a money spot for me and possibly you if they offer it with AWD. Hahaha I know I was just being a big-ole-smartass.

I thought he meant me, I do like mocha interiors. My Jeep seat color is called Mocha Frost, IIRC.

I think he meant dfelt

If you're talking about me, I just like the cheaper costs to "fuel" and the huge amount of torque from electrics. We're not going to save the planet with EVs while we're still tossing out plastic forks after one use. We're effed regardless. You know the cars I like, swift, silent, lots of torque. EVs fit that bill at a cheaper cost to operate than a V8.

I agree. I think I will be completely open to have my next daily driver as EV as long as we have one regular family car. My commute is long, almost 100 miles per day but even todays EVs can cover that easily. And since I mostly drive highway EV will be better for me than a hybrid.

I am all about "saving" the planet (mining doesn't count if I turn my head) but I MUST HAVE MOCHA INTERIOR TO DO IT. - guess who

Now that would be cool...

True, 1 in 85 but I believe we will see that number reduce fast as automakers release EVs in greater variety that people want to buy. I know if GM would update the dash on the BOLT to be optional two tone or all black or better yet give us the Mocha brown interior, they would sell more. Options is what people want.

I have the Bill Luke Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram (Phoenix) emblem on the back of my Jeep, but it's small and tasteful. I did take off their license plate frame, it would have covered the 'OHIO' at the top of the plate. I found under the back seat the original Orange Coast CJDR license frame from Costa Mesa.

I really don't think I have range anxiety... but I have charger location anxiety. I still think a plug-in hybrid is the way to go, but if it is a two vehicle family, a pure EV as a second car would be fine.

okay, I'm still not sure why everyone is surprised by this. The ATS dies just like the SRX died.... because it got a new name. A new car will slot in to replace ATS with a new name.

We also just picked on of these up to replace our T&C. It is so much nicer of a vehicle than the T&C. A few small details I don't like as much. They went a little backward on storage with only the lower glovebox and seeming less storage in the center console, even with the IP drawer. The kids definitely like the seat back mounted screens more, though!