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LOL- I actually randomly posted the LeSabre shot, didn't even 'see' the swoosh as related to the convo. - - - - - Some of my wife's motley cousins :

Yeah. You may be right. The Silverado does seem to have a nice side profile, though. I like that swoosh on it. Too bad the front end is all roided up to hell... If you gonna do a swoosh, you might as well do a swoosh (or several of them)...that LeSabre concept wears them loud and proud!

Car of the Century!!! Take THAT GM!!! Oh wait, the thread is about Mark Reuss becong GM's new Prez...

Farms were the norm, and they often had tractors before automobiles, plus kerosene for heaters, etc. 'Storage systems' = fuel can. My point was the average household both was more likely to have fuel to offer, as well as more likely willing to offer it. But 99% of the early cars were used for local pleasure trips. People very very seldom 'commuted'- they either worked on their/a local farm/ lived in town/ rode horses long distances/ took a train. Many many Model Ts were put to work as a farm vehicle as opposed to transportation. I am seeing different numbers but I'll go with the most common- a Model T had a 10 gal tank and got about 15 MPG (I see estimated from 13-21, but remember; this is at very low speeds), so that 150 mile range is still better than 75% of todays' BEV's range (fiat 500e : 84 miles).

I will have to agree to disagree, we have history but nothing other than a few stories of coast to coast trips and there people like EV drivers of today probably planned to be in places where there were no fuels and farms DID NOT have storage systems of various fuels like today as you point out there were not really any transportation systems. So yes I do believe there were drivers who wanted the new ICE technology to replace their horses but also had range anxiety till better roads were built and gas stations were built. Today we have a far superior infrastructure of ability to even slow charge EVs and I believe the switch to EVs will happen much faster than it was to ICE.

Electric vehicle Nazis. Perfect sum-up.

OMG- electric motor RPM is irrelevant; a Dyson vacuum V10 motor does 125,000 RPM.

And also Dermott Mulroney, American actor. And not Muldowney, as in Shirley, retired American drag racer.

Was that a rendering of an Oldsmobile Toronado to look like a Cadillac? Or, was the Eldorado supposed to look like that, but Oldsmobile said "Hey! That should be the Toronado!!!" (And then, something horrible went wrong...)

Yes. Yes. Monroney=window sticker Mulroney=Prime Minister that could be bought...he was a lawyer after all.

Monroney, I think. I’ve read dealer window stickers referred to by that name.

[Jeep video] There were some Marmon-Herrington 4x4 conversions on my COE's generation model- with the 'granny' low and the ridiculous gearing (5.83/8.11) it would be interesting to see one rock crawl. - - - - -

It seems so strange to invest in this new V8 and a CT6 V series using it only to drop it. But that is a very GM move.

I phoquing love those JEEPS!!! Bolt Mulroney? Canada's former Prime Minister could be bought for only 39 grand? Boy, Airbus got screwed on that deal I tell ya!!!

Certain breeds really need them. One should always wrap his wiener, for example.

Well, no other traditional automaker has actually done a full, pure, 100% battery only electric car to be honest. There is GM, BMW, Nissan. Mercedes too. The Toyota Prius family...all those are hybrids right? So Toyota is not one of the companies to get on the 100% full EV bandwagon, right? The Mercedes SLS Electric was one expensive motherfu . I do not know how many were produced and sold, but Im willing to bet it wasnt that many. And I think these were limited editions anyway, so moot point about sales... Porsche and Mercedes Benz are gonna play in the Tesla Model S territory. Porsche and Mercedes Benz better have their A++++ game in the electronic gadgets inside the car as Tesla is second to none there. Tesla's screen that does everything, the download-ability that updates the systems...are all like Microsoft, Apple, Android smooth. THAT is the thing, we all say that Tesla is like Apple...well, they are because Tesla's electronic gadgets act and react EXACTLY how PCs, laptops, tablets and smart phones behave. Maybe even better...and THAT is what the consumer of Tesla cars EXPECTS of their cars nowadays. We've all been spoiled by our smart phones. And then tablets. And THAT is how we want our electronic doodads to be like. And Tesla does that better than anybody! Talk all you want about leather seating, soft touch dashboards or center consoles that cools or heats our drinks...what the modern buyer of cars, especially EVs want, is that their car's connectivity to the internet via that touch screen, be even better than what they are used to with their Samsung's Galaxy and iPhone and tablets... If Mercedes and Porsche want to steal consumers from Tesla, THAT is where the battleground will be fought at... Oh...did I forget to mention the charging network? Oh...and Tesla's motor is a gem too... We will see if Porsche will be able to duplicate Ludicrous... Tesla has NOTHING to lose. If Porsche beats it...hey its Porsche. Its a speed company. And a new speed war has began. And then we wait and see what Tesla does next... If Porsche does not...Porsche hangs their head in shame and only benefits Tesla even more...

I’ve been known to put sweaters on dogs when it’s really cold... and I definitely let them on the furniture. As far as getting sads when selling an old car, I did kind of miss my old Jeep when I traded March 31, 2017. But I’d had it almost 17 years and 170k miles...it was at the point where I didn’t trust it anymore and it would needed expensive repairs. Pic below taken the day I traded it.

You and me both! I especially HATE IT!!! ? when people dress up their dogs.... I understand FULLY!!! @dfelt mentioned his drills... I too, have my favorite tools. A Black and Decker Fire Storm cordless drill, that I absolutely refuse to give up. I love it!!! But Im also on my 3rd Ni-Ca battery on it that I bought for it. 50 bucks. I could buy a brand new Lithion battery powered Ryobi or Makita or whatever...but that Black and Decker, its been with me since 1994. We've been through a lot. I bought it for my dad.XMAS gift. He used it a lot. I used it a lot. As long as I could always buy a Ni-Ca battery for it, I will never let it go. Plus...with my cars that Ive owned. There is ALWAYS a sad moment when I replace them with something new. I aint happy for a new car. Im saddened that Im departing with the old one. I actually cried when I traded in my Olds Alero for the Impala I bought. I just confessed to crying over my Olds Alero when I gave it up for another car. I think that qualifies. But, let us be real here. Anthropomorphism is what is happening here. Inanimate objects do not have personalities. We as humans, assign personalities to them. But...animals actually DO have personalities for real...

Now THAT would be really SWEET. Funny too, but really sweet.

Seattle was massively & extensively regraded in the early 20th Century- the old street used to be up where the building was. Engineers moved on the order of 50 million cubic yards of material and razed a lot of buildings for a number of reason (filling the tidepools at the water edge, enxtending available land, aiding water lines coming into the city, lessening grades, etc. Pretty amazing operation.

There are a LOT of KIAs out where I live. The resale value of said KIAs are in the toilet because of that cold harsh fact.

Who stated GM was using "all" it's resources on future tech??

Which means they are probably abandoning ship and buying Teslas. Tesla could outsell Lexus in 2019, they are surging fast, Toyota better wake up or their "green car" buyers are going to disappear on them.

Call me greedy, but i want it all. Good gas powered drivers, and my EV tech too, If GM doesn’t, sure I will find someone who does....

Always sucks when someone smacks your brand new Equinox with their mirror...