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Yet Acura still produces this sedan without slowing down. And Acura continues to fine tune it for enthusiasts. And funny enough, Acura re-introduced a fan favorite. I am not saying if it is any good or a worthy successor to its legendary ancestor. Just that Acura is more in tune to give an enthusiast a car an enthusiast craves as compared to Chevrolet. Chevrolet is more in tune to produce what the general market is leaning towards. Acura is (and even Honda) is geared more to the enthusiast regardless what you WANT to see at a Honda/Acura dealership... Thee ILX is just replaced by the Integra. And let us not forget that Acura also sells this: And Honda has concepted these 2 little EV guys 2 years ago. Both NOT CUVs but actual cars. Coupes even... Yet Chevrolet is STRONGLY hinting that the Camaro will BECOME an EV CUV. I woudnt have the idea that Acura builds mundane pods if I were you... They maybe ugly, but they ARE geared for the enthusiast. To boot, they produce enthusiast vehicles that some of us actually could call them cars and NOT utility vehicles...

Common David... Stop trying to sell. Nobody is buying it. 1. Germans are NOT tiny people. And German OEMs do actually engineer their cars for their home market first. 2. At 6'6" tall and a body builder, a serious and pure body builder at that, you are definitely amongst the BIGGEST and LARGEST of us humans. A human with less muscle mass and less vertical height than yourself does NOT constitute tiny. 3. What Im trying to say is that, YOU do NOT represent the average human height and build regardless if you are of German decent. Germanic folk are amongst the biggest of humans and you tower your fellow Germanic folk. Therefore you reserve no right to stipulate that certain German cars (Porsches) are built specifically for tiny people. Its not that people smaller than yourself are tiny. Its just that YOU are HUGE. I, at 5 foot 6 and half inches tall...cant even bee considered tiny. Im tiny to YOU, but Im just slightly smaller than average human height. But to ALL humans ALL across this planet, YOU are a beast of a man. Its all perspective, sure. But YOUR perspective of certain German cars (Porsches) are built specifically for tiny people is SERIOUSLY flawed. To put it mildly...

He seems so cramped and UNcomfortable trying to LOOK comfortable, the whole scenario looks like it could be a Charlie Chaplin comedic act

Oh no, I've seen it. Your head leaning forward and your leg outside of the driver's seat, which certainly looks like the door cannot shut with your leg in that position. Yeah, Porsche builds their vehicles for those gosh darn tiny Germans!

I actually think after todays financial posting that we will see it in the teens and then it will be a buying time. Mid teens I would be happy with.

And you seem to have ignored the pictures I posted in the past here showing I could fit in the BOLT. I have tried Porsche and while they are great cars, I know for a fact that they are built for tiny people as I do not fit in them.

Down another 10% thus far today! $20.30 as of this writing. I'd like to get it on it shortly. I actually wanted IPO prices but since this tumble, I'm keeping an eye out for it and going to read up on where it "should" bottom out around. I have faith in the company and it would definitely be a long-term play because I don't see them getting out of this production hole anytime soon.

I know you're partially joking here but I should point out something. The Bolt has 40.1" of headroom up front while a larger than the Macan (Porsche doesn't even list Macan interior dimensions for some reason) Porsche Cayenne has 39.6". He would have a legit argument against the Macan for that reason alone. Point is, maybe this whole nonsense about what David will and will not fit in should just take a knee.

Isnt that the Avista of half a decade ago? Yeah, sure. I LOVE it even. But it was just a styling exercise. On CUVs. The sedan that had that Avista face was bought out by a French conglomerate when GM got rid of Buick's German mother, Opel.

Seems like the Traiblazer SS could handle evasive maneuvers just fine. But the (tried and true, simple) tech involved: There are stiffer springs, shocks, and bars, not to mention firmer bushings all around and a 9.5-inch rear axle with limited slip, plus thicker front rotors and Corvette pads. Around the C/D handling loop, the SS proved flat, stable, able. All the stock TrailBlazer's squirming body motions have been erased, ditto the squirmy steering. makes the Trailblazer SS for a very rough ride as a daily driver: The suspension doesn't transmit small displacement jitters, but if the front wheels catch a frost heave at the same moment, prepare to be snapped to attention. The condition of your local roads may well determine whether you can live with an SS. Im sure @David will tell us that he has no problems with his Trailblazer SS. And I will believe him. The thing is, I wouldnt be able to live with the Trailblazer SS as a daily... Why? Well, I doubt Seattle, where David lives, has the pothole, crappy street problem that Montreal has... Its OK if he thinks in his own mind, that I would enjoy such a stiff suspension ride, he dont live in Montreal. I do though... As far as the Chevrolet SS goes vis-a-vis the Trailblazer SS. David prefers his Trailblazer SS over the 4 door sedan equivalent. And for me its vice versa. Still though, a ride height higher, ground clearance that is higher and weighs 500 pounds more...the sportier ride GOES to the Chevy SS. To boot, the Chevy SS has magnetic shocks that could make the sedan drive like its on air as compared to the jolting ride the Trailblazer SS ONLY offers... If I lived in an area with much much less snow, and I wouldnt have to sell a lung each time I had to fill up the big V8 up front, the Chevy SS would get my money EACH and EVERY⌚ Yes, David. Enjoy your SUV. But that statement is sooooo phoquing wrong... Now...in the North American market, pure sedans like these are gonna be expensive, but CUVs are slowly going in the reverse direction, in that EV CUVs are slowly becoming more sedan like again in the EV world... And Im sure Acura, or another auto enthusiast maker will introduce pure sedans and coupes for the sane people out there that dont wah wah wah about getting in and out of cars. (sorry @ccap41, I need to needle him somehow...)

Rivian's stock has gotten beat to sh!t since it's IPO. It's IPO price was $78/share, it spiked up to $179/share in the first week and has since fallen extremely hard, down to ~$21/share as of right now and still falling.

Ironically Buick builds an equal, kind of, to the Subaru Outback, the TourX, but lower to the ground and not as proficient in offroading... based on the Regal sedan and calls it a crossover.

Nah...not a station wagon. The Eagle aint a station wagon either. The Eagle would be the very first crossover SUV. And if the Eagle is/was considered a compact or even a mid-sizer, it would be the first CUV as in COMPACT utility vehicle... This is a wagon, but could it also be an SUV, too? This is why the term crossover was coined. Its two fold. 1. For the weenie boys that dont want to admit they like wagons. To feel like they bought into some sort of marketing lifestyle they want to adhere to. These "crossover" 'tweeners are truly SUVs though. Most of them are on the smaller side so I personally would call them CUVs to denigrate them further. Unless we are talking about REAL sport utility vehicles. You know, the rugged offroaders and the utilitarian stuff that now also make up the luxury world. Navigators and even Cayennes etc. 2. Crossover was also coined for the exact opposite of what I just stated. For the folk that despise the excess culture of the SUV world. Be it the bling bling world of a Hummer, Escalade or the unsophisticated, too outdoorsy image of a Jeep and a lifted 4Runner. The boring Toyota crowd (sans the FJ Cruiser and 4unner) fits in this area quite nicely. I had a soccer (baseball) mom tell me she was proud of her purrchase of a Jeep Sahara (4 door) two years ago. I told her "woooo, the ORIGINAL SUV!!!" She snapped back at me and told me NO! Its NOT an SUV!!! I guess she equated SUV with soccer mom... So I dunno where the phoque HER type fits in, but yeah. To me, a wagon is: NOT lifted and NOT HIGHER than an EXISTING sedan that its based on. The Lyriq is a crossover. It is not based on any sedan. It may not be a CUV as its not a compact vehicle, its definitely not a station wagon... Its a damned crossover. The AMG Eagle would be confusing to classify it, yes. The Eagle is based on the Spirit. Its a hatchback...not a sedan. But its based on an existing car... But it is lifted with 4 wheel drive. It truly is the first crossover. It crossed over a segment to create a new one. yeah...they call the Outback as a wagon. Its lifted though, but at least its based on a sedan. Its a wagon... barely. Kinda like the Eagle. True!!! Ill repeat though, the Lyriq has NO sedan equivalent. Its a crossover... As for me buying one, one day. Any CUV/SUV. Possibly... when Im like 80 years old and I can barely get into my cars...because of ease of ingress and egress... Im 49 and I dont have any issues just yet. Not making fun of anybody...but yeah... AND...I dont really crave AWD. I have it on my Acura ONLY because I wanted 300 plus naturally aspirated V6 horses and at that time, the Acura TL SH-AWD was the one that had what it took to get my money in 2012. A few years later if I waited to buy a car, and it would have been an Impala in my driveway instead. 300 horse naturally aspirated V6 powering the front wheels. Ideally, I would have lived in an area where there aint no snow so RWD would have been my thing. Its not just the ride height I dont like on CUVs/SUVs, its the unnecessary weight that Id be lugging around with AWD. That goes for the TL SH-AWD as well. If Id buy a RWD sedan that offers AWD like a Pentastar V6 Chrysler 300 or Dodge Charger or the myriad of BMWs and Mercedes Benzes and buy those with AWD, then Id lose the ONLY benefit that RWD has over FWD. And that would be the fun driving characteristics of a tossable rear end... And for what? For me to drive in snow? FWD takes care of that, and the extra heft could kiss my ass. But I realized that a FWD/AWD car is just as numbing an experience as a regular FWD car, or a RWD with AWD... So for me, unless I actually go offroading, 4 wheel drive could kiss my ass...

The uplevel sportier model is the one which I believe had this (^) engine. I've rented about 5 of them across 3 or so years, and my rental cars always had the 2.4 liter 4 cylinder. They put out 180 hp. Acceptable but not fantastic for highway fuel economy for a 4 cyl. They are very quiet and smooth riding cars.

The one measurement you gave me for was a completely different car = useless. Also, we're talking about the rear, not the front. That's where his complaints always are.

Nonsense, the Bolt is small and it's a ridiculous claim that he can fit in the back of one when the driver's seat is set for a 6'6" driver(himself). I know he can't fit in a Macan. They're pretty small themselves.