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Nope, my parents aren't related, yes, you clearly did mean Chinese people are inbred...and no, you can't use the excuse of deadpan humor because 1) you don't even know what it is and claimed earlier that I was making it up, and 2) there are certain things you just don't say, even if you were attempting to deadpan.

empowah: Agree RE: small cars. GMNA should delegate all development and design of its small cars to GMDAT and GME. Those two should work in conjunction on the small cars. Then they should be brought over to the US unadulterated. Opels as Saturns and Holdens, Daewoos and Chevys as the Chevrolets, the sporty trims of the GMDAT versions get new front and rear clips and distinct, sporty interiors...and these will become the Pontiacs. This spreads out the resources on a global level and GMNA will have the freedom to design the Pontiac front/rear clips and interior upgrades as well as build the damn cars in NA.

I can tell you this, too. I am not a fan of the G# nomenclature; it just is too clinical. I would much rather see a Bonneville nameplate return than a Grand Prix. I could also see Grand Am sticking aound over Grand Prix, too, though my preference for those two is much more of a toss-up.

...is there a hybrid CTS on the way? No, what GM needs to do to combat rising gas prices is develop (with a European automaker or three) some world-class diesels.

Restyle on what? W needs to die, like yesterday. The Ws are getting moved to EpsilonII and Zeta (Impala)...so the Grand Prix goes to...EpsilonII? Nope, overlaps G6. Zeta? Nope, overlaps proposed G8.I say those two can be combined. Otherwise I agree with what you wrote. ETA: Oh, and you forgot Solstice...

wow that's racist and really uninformed.

Well, other than the BTS or BLS, there really doesn't seem to be anything...unless you think GM would offer a Turbocharged 4 for the NG CTS? I doubt that...too heavy...

Well that's interesting about the fuel blend...in EU the only difference is that the fuel is 40% biodiesel...but diesel engines can switch between diesel and biodiesel without problems. I will have to read up on it further.

Yes they were. They weren't really differentiated until the 90s designs.At least these two cars are contenders in the marketplace...

Well the Zetas will be 2010, right? And the Malibu switch to the longer EpsilionII is in 2011. Shouldn't be much of a problem.

Oh, I know...it's just that the Malibu script was right there where I was looking at it. It's a nice design...that's why I loved the Skunkworks Chevelle project so much, though that design is really a full-sized design.

lol but the really awkward looking one in the dress that looks like a restaurant uniform is someone I went to HS with.

I am the Taboo king...put my sister and I on the same team and eventually we are forced to be "broken up" with accusations of cheating since we are on the same wavelength.

It's OK Nick...most of em are prolly just jealous of BMW ownership anyway! :AH-HA_wink: They can afford an M3, what better way to let it be known than to buy it in an M3-exclusive color?

that is REALLY awkward!!

Thanks for injecting some reality into the situation, griffon. Just as I was hoping that Kappa wasn't a business disaster after all...

Yeah, they do make the world rock...with seismic force.

Did they? Well that rules out Oz then...

I'd assume they will...I mean they used the VX Lightning concept for the SKY.

We already knew about the Daewoo...I'm thinking more along the lines of Holden. I can see Aussies loving this thing... Really, though, anything that supplies more volume with minimal costs is fine by me. ETA: I'm torn though on which Kappa I'd want in Oz...on the one hand the Solstice has a very distinctive design, and blacking out the grille and adding a holden badge wouldn't look too out of place...but the SKY interior is superior and is also the international vehicle...I know they will likely go for the SKY, but while I do like the SKY better overall, the Solstice is more expressive.

I hope this is true...would really make me like Kappa more...

I like that M3 color.

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Other than the VE cars, Holden and Opel share quite a bit. Holden has an Astra, Vectra, Tigra, Berlina... and an Aveo. I just hope guionM is right...it would be a great plan...

Because then it would nearly duplicate Saturn, but with the addition of a few large RWD cars. Holden and Opel are pretty much the same.