G. David Felt

Boomer Music!

I would rather cook some yummy food and watch a movie with a bottle of wine than watch sports.

Bombastic

I have seen from name brand 9V to generic 9V batteries live a wide range of life. For smoke detectors, habit is every XMAS, Replace the 9V no matter what to insure it is fresh and strong. Cheap insurance I think that way.

It is very interesting to see what is posted by leaders of various battery companies. EV focused writeups on EV battery life, but they seem to deal with the same key details as every other type of battery. How Long Should An Electric Car’s Battery Last? (myev.com) Just How Long Will An EV Battery Last? (insideevs.com) Battery Lifetime: How Long Can Electric Vehicle Batteries Last? (cleantechnica.com) Electric Car Battery Life, Cost of Replacement, Recycling & Leasing | EDF (edfenergy.com) From hearing aids to laptop batteries there are a variety of interesting responses, but the consistent thread I read is that depending on consistency of charging, power surges, extreme use versus a consistent use will all affect battery life. Course cheaper designed batteries tend to not last as long as higher quality batteries. Life Expectancy of Unused Batteries Tom Begley Batteries 424 (audiologyonline.com) CEO of Ray o Vac batteries talking about hearing aid batteries. This is solid from Trip Lite, read for the details, but this is consistent. 1. Ambient Temperature 2. Number of Discharges 3. Age 4. Load Sizing 5. Maintenance 5 Factors that will Shorten the Life of Your UPS Battery (tripplite.com) APC, one of the worlds largest UPS builders and sellers has the following on their battery for life expectancy. What is the expected life of my APC UPS battery? Environment: All Three Phase and Single Phase UPS Models Cause / Resolution: Most APC batteries should last three to five years. There are many factors which affect Battery life including environment and number of discharges. Below are some guidelines to ensure optimum life expectancy: 1. Operating Temperature: The optimum operating temperature for a lead-acid battery is 20-25° C (68-77° F). Elevated temperature reduces longevity. As a guideline, every 8° C (15° F) rise in temperature will cut the battery life in half. A battery which would last for 4 years at 25° C (77° F), will only be good for 2 years if operated at 33° C (95° F). Keep in mind that the battery temperature inside your UPS will always be warmer than the ambient temperature of the location where the UPS is installed. 2. Battery Calibration and Deep Discharge: Only perform runtime calibrations on your UPS one or two times a year, if necessary. Some of our customers want to check their systems to verify that their runtime is sufficient. However, consistently performing these calibrations can significantly decrease the life expectancy of your APC battery. It is also important to remember that a UPS is not designed for constant deep discharges. We do not reccomend using your APC Smart-UPS/Back-UPS as a portable power supply that is repeatedly discharged/recharged (like on a portable equipment cart). These units are designed for emergency use during unexpected power outages or momentary loss of power. 3. Storage: Do not store APC batteries for extended periods of time. New batteries/units should be stored for no more than 6 months from date of purchase, as they ship from the factory at approximately 80% charge. After this period, the battery should be used or it will lose a great deal of its charge . It is not advisable to store batteries that have already been in use. Extended storage without periodic charging can result in shortened life expectancy and erratic battery performance. Temperature also plays a large part in battery degradation during storage: If the ambient temperature during storage is - 15°C to + 30°C (+ 5°F to + 86°F), perform a full recharge cycle at least every six months. In environments where the ambient temperature is + 30°C to + 45°C (+ 86°F to + 113°F), perform a full recharge cycle at least every three months. 4. Load: As the load increases on your UPS, the runtime decreases. It is not recommended that the load exceed 80 percent of the UPS unit’s rated capacity. In the event of a power failure, a UPS loaded to full capacity will discharge the battery very quickly and there is a potential that the life expectancy of the battery will be significantly reduced.

Reality sucks for some and will be hard for those that hate change. Hate is a strong word but is something that we all have to work on as we live in a Multi-Cultural world and really need to learn to accept the differences that drive us. We all cannot expect everyone to change to be like us otherwise the world would be boring, but we can accept to agree to disagree. I do not expect Bill to ever like the EVs that are coming, but I also would not expect him to give up loving ICE auto's. I hope he can eventually come to accept them being part of the auto industry. I hope we all can at least talk about the pro's and con's of EV, BEV, Hybrids, etc. and acknowledge all auto's have their place in society, some more than others. Wishing you all a great weekend.

Relaxation

I would agree with your assessment that especially in this case, there is profiting at the expense of the consumer. Tesla has done this big time. I have much higher expectations for Rivian as RJ, CEO seems to have a much more common sense and grasp on Reality than Musk. Time will tell and Auto batteries are on the EPA cycle certification so I would expect as Ford, GM and many others of the old OEMs join the EV race that batteries will have to last the stated life expectancy.

This is so much better than the Tesla X!!!

Amazing 53 years, looking forward to the next 53!

Get Shorty

Carter

Check her post here out, that shows how spectacular it is! https://www.instagram.com/p/B_bXmK_JFeY/

Multi-Cultural

Free Love

Where did ya read this, that is crazy as I have never seen an EV cost that much to recharge the battery.

My sons 2017 Rhino colored Jeep GC. Still looking good!

This is so funny of a puppy looking at an a guy on the toilet. Puppy stares at stranger from underneath stall in public bathroom (msn.com)

As has been stated, I am moving slowly as my paid off, in show room condition current auto's has me in no Rush to be the first into them, happy to get the bugs smoothed out before I buy. Will be interesting to see as both the AWD Hummer and Rivian price out the same in the mid 70's for what I am looking at. If I win the Lotto then hell yes to a Hummer 1st edition and 1000HP.

Commando

Wife likes the looks exterior and interior of both the Rivian and Hummer. She wants a truck as she wants to go on her time to Home Depot to get stuff for her flowers in the yard and pots. I think I would be happy with either one, but need to do the butt in an actual chair test and see if I can once comfy in the drivers seat, get out and get in behind and still sit comfy. If so then winner winner chicken dinner. Not sure what color she would pick but I am happy with anything, will be her choice.

Agree, while they do not offer the Rhino color that my Son got on his GC 3yrs ago, I do like the Green on the TrailHawk. This brings me to the problem on Jeeps web site. Rather than have to go into each model and see which colors are available it would make so much more sense to let the potential buyers choose the color they would like and have the web site then par down what models are available for that color choice. Same with interior colors. Let the buyers choose and then say that color is available on these models. Love the High Altitude GC in Sangria color.

The wife drives the SS as her daily ride. She loves it and the power. I just hit 175,000 miles on it and it still fly's. Will have it for a long time as she loves everything about it. Last year, I replaced the died OEM head unit with a Pioneer head unit with Android/Apple play and backup camera and she loves it even more now that she can stream her You Tube music. My daughter has already put dibs on it when I get an EV for the wife to drive as she wants it for replacing her 1999 Dodge Durango.

Before my son bought his Jeep GC in Rhino Color which is awesome, so few so really stands out, he test drove the Explorer ST and while he liked it, one thing that stood out was the excessive use of hard plastics that cheapen an otherwise decent SUV.

Hybrid CPO maybe on either one.