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Since random news on all forms of auto news I reported in Random was stated as not the proper place to be, I have started this Alternative Random.

http://www.chevyjoltev.com

Love the site built to try and get more excitement for this lovely 2 door EV.

This story is Wicked Cool about a 427 Cobra Replica made as an EV with a Tesla Powertrain and Kia EV Battery pack.

https://electrek.co/2017/01/17/classic-427-shelby-cobra-tesla-electric-motor-kia-soul-ev-battery-pack/#more-35518

Mitsubishi 3000 converted to EV using Tesla Motors and VOLT battery packs. 1000HP using two Tesla Ludicrous mode motors. Very cool car.

https://electrek.co/2016/07/21/tesla-hacker-1000hp-electric-car-tesla-drivetrain-chevy-volt-batteries/

Love that they are now hosting an EV Conversion page that covers all auto's and even a EV converted boat.

https://electrek.co/guides/ev-conversion/

EV Rocks! :metal:

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9 States have signed on to follow California with a ZEV Mandate. Full story can be read here: https://autoalliance.org/energy-environment/state-electric-vehicle-mandate/

The main point is as follows from this screen grab:

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Here is where those states line up in regards to their state, county and city gov agencies buying ZEV auto's.

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Good luck raising the ZEV sales by 700% in only 5 years- they've been on the market for 20 now, and BTW; a hybrid is NOT a ZEV.

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Seems the Auto Industry is not the only place for electric mania to take place, Boating with the massive torque is taking off but without all the gov incentives. Seems rich folks love the power while being quiet.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-20/battery-powered-boats-are-the-next-frontier?srnd=premium

Designboats.ch Electro Tender 08e at the Monaco Yacht Club.

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The airplane industry is also finding ways to electrify 2 and 4 person plans.  The first 26 planes have been purchased for use in airplane training for pilots.

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/quantum-air-orders-26-electric-airplanes-from-bye-aerospace/

Talk about your silent flight, very cool.

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Daimler is delivering their first 2 Electric Class 8 Commercial semi's for use to Penske Truck Leasing.

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/daimler-to-deliver-first-ecascadia-electric-heavy-duty-trucks/

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Seems Daimler has beaten Tesla to delivering Semi Trucks for Commercial use.

Shell Gas Stations just finished installing and opening up for use their first Fast Charger for public use in Singapore.

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/shells-greenlots-installs-first-abb-ev-fast-charger-in-singapore/

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3 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

This is a little masturbation corner for Dfelt... 🤣

Seems you like the Chub rub too! :P 

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Seems Rivian has confirmed that there will be 4 roof top options for te R1S SUV.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1124632_rivian-r1s-suv-to-offer-four-roof-options-but-no-sliding-moonroof

The four roofs include:

- a fixed steel roof
- a fixed glass roof
- a fixed electrochromic glass roof that can automatically darken or leave it to the driver
- a roof with two opaque lift-out composite panels

Loving all these ID3 VW Mules as they are tested against the Kia and Chevrolet Bolt. I know VW is calling it an electric crossover hatchback, but I swear they look alot like the Bolt.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1124726_volkswagen-id-4x-spy-shots-reveal-production-direction-for-crozz-electric-crossover

Volkswagen ID 3 and ID 4 (crop) - S. Baldauf/SB-Medien

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3 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Seems the Auto Industry is not the only place for electric mania to take place, Boating with the massive torque is taking off but without all the gov incentives. Seems rich folks love the power while being quiet.

Boats seem like the worst segment to crack into because there's no regenerative braking in water and they're so restrictive in water it would be like a car constantly towing something except worse. 

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9 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Boats seem like the worst segment to crack into because there's no regenerative braking in water and they're so restrictive in water it would be like a car constantly towing something except worse. 

Clearly these are toys for the rich around a bay and not real long term boating. 

Yet with that said, we do have the following:

A boat that can go 100 miles a day on pure solar, not too shabby.

https://catamaranguru.com/catamarans/catamaran-concepts/sunwave-54-solar-catamaran

 

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On 8/23/2019 at 9:24 PM, dfelt said:

Since random news on all forms of auto news I reported in Random was stated as not the proper place to be, I have started this Alternative Random.

http://www.chevyjoltev.com

Love the site built to try and get more excitement for this lovely 2 door EV.

This story is Wicked Cool about a 427 Cobra Replica made as an EV with a Tesla Powertrain and Kia EV Battery pack.

https://electrek.co/2017/01/17/classic-427-shelby-cobra-tesla-electric-motor-kia-soul-ev-battery-pack/#more-35518

Mitsubishi 3000 converted to EV using Tesla Motors and VOLT battery packs. 1000HP using two Tesla Ludicrous mode motors. Very cool car.

https://electrek.co/2016/07/21/tesla-hacker-1000hp-electric-car-tesla-drivetrain-chevy-volt-batteries/

Love that they are now hosting an EV Conversion page that covers all auto's and even a EV converted boat.

https://electrek.co/guides/ev-conversion/

EV Rocks! :metal:

Personally I wouldn’t worry about the troll who brought up the “concern” because it was an obvious trolling/butthurt comment. 

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

This is a little masturbation corner for Dfelt... 🤣

Complete with a disco ball and a mirrored ceiling! Got to make it feel special!

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On 8/23/2019 at 9:24 PM, dfelt said:

Since random news on all forms of auto news I reported in Random was stated as not the proper place to be, I have started this Alternative Random.

http://www.chevyjoltev.com

Love the site built to try and get more excitement for this lovely 2 door EV.

This story is Wicked Cool about a 427 Cobra Replica made as an EV with a Tesla Powertrain and Kia EV Battery pack.

https://electrek.co/2017/01/17/classic-427-shelby-cobra-tesla-electric-motor-kia-soul-ev-battery-pack/#more-35518

Mitsubishi 3000 converted to EV using Tesla Motors and VOLT battery packs. 1000HP using two Tesla Ludicrous mode motors. Very cool car.

https://electrek.co/2016/07/21/tesla-hacker-1000hp-electric-car-tesla-drivetrain-chevy-volt-batteries/

Love that they are now hosting an EV Conversion page that covers all auto's and even a EV converted boat.

https://electrek.co/guides/ev-conversion/

EV Rocks! :metal:

That Jolt has a definite Cadillac ELR vibe but it would never work. To get EVs truly into the mainstream conscience, you have to start with CUVs sadly. Once that happens, then niche cars like the Jolt idea can be explored. 

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That small EV plane is not enough.  Call me when a Boeing 747/757/767 or its Airbus equivalent no longer needs aviation fuel.

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55 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

That small EV plane is not enough.  Call me when a Boeing 747/757/767 or its Airbus equivalent no longer needs aviation fuel.

Gotta start somewhere. 🙅‍♂️

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14 hours ago, ccap41 said:

This is a little masturbation corner for Dfelt... 🤣

We who still love the ICE have the option of the Powerstroke..enough to make even me love Ford!

10 hours ago, riviera74 said:

That small EV plane is not enough.  Call me when a Boeing 747/757/767 or its Airbus equivalent no longer needs aviation fuel.

This is reason to use biofuels. Doubtful this will happen in our lifetime on electron power....

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44 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

 

Not only that, but they set a new EV record that MB has yet to get anywhere close too.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2019/products/porsche-taycan-record-nuerburgring-nordschleife-18440.html

Have to say the video on the Porsche news anouncement is very cool.

 

Love the comments on this video of the run Porsche posted and how folks say other than tire noise and the whine of the motor, very quiet and just rushing air.

Very Cool indeed! :metal:

Tesla should be shaking in their boots as this clearly looks superior to anything they are building.

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How do we engage the youth of today with the Auto industry of the past with a focus on the future in the 21st century?

 

Seems this teacher found a way, ICE to EV conversions in Auto Shop class Converting old Volkswagen from ICE to EV power trains.

http://newsroom.vw.com/vehicles/reviving-auto-shop-classes-for-the-ev-era-one-old-volkswagen-at-a-time/

This is based out of West New York, NJ and the then new teacher Ron Grosinger who started teaching Auto shop class at the school in 2005 was faced with figuring out how to survive with an electrive class that had gone from 6 to 2 teachers, rarely had hands on training and only 27 students.

Today the Auto Shop program has 4 teachers and is nearing his goal of 50/50 young men and woman.

Seems Woman like the cleaner EV approach over the ICE approach.

Over all a great read on how one man is making a difference to drive interest back into the youth over auto's.

Some thing we ALL SHOULD WANT for the long term life of the auto industry.

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Generative Design - Do you know what this means?

Generative design is a computing process that mimics evolution to create natural-seeming shapes that maximize strength while minimizing weight!

What does this have to do with the Random EV channel you might ask?

Plenty, Seems innovation is beginning again with America. Specifically what VW largest office outside Germany which is located in Silicon Valley with more than 180 engineers, designers, researchers and social scientists.

VW has allowed this California office to run more like a college campus and the question was asked of how would you blend the BEST of Volkswagen's heritage while embracing the future.

The answer is a team of 25 that took less than 6 months to take a 1962 Type 2 11 window Microbus, strip it down to the bones and rebuild it as a modern 21st Century electric Microbus with 120-hp electric motor and a 10 kW battery pack fitting into the same space of the original power train.

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Tons to read about all the future stuff put into this Microbus from the microphones and cameras to the voice enabled access system, lighting, the ultra light weight steering wheel and wheels to the mirror support and seat supports. The Microbus weights less than what it did as an ICE Microbus.

Have to say a very cool story.

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Full story here: http://newsroom.vw.com/vehicles/a-new-era-for-volkswagen-innovation-in-america-begins-with-the-type-20-concept/

 

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Interesting story but one of the futurist of the auto industry is expecting EVs to reach price parity with ICE auto's by 2023 and ice auto production to cease by 2026.

To quote the writting: 

Wills, the managing director of advisory firm Future Smart Strategies and a board member of remote energy services provider Horizon Power, stated that the future of the automobile is coming, and it’s approaching far quicker than what many expect. 

“The future is coming faster than we think. And when it arrives, we always say it was faster than we thought,” he said in a statement to The Sydney Morning Herald.

The thinking is that we will shift faster to EVs than the long drawn out process of moving to Hybrids and this Wills believes is being shown in the fast drop of the Prius line in sales and people waiting for the roll out of EVs from the auto industry.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-evs-price-parity-gas-cars-2023/

Ford is officially on record that once we reach autonomous auto's they will be crushed after 4 years of use as the ability to recycle them will be faster and the desire for electronic tech in the latest auto will not decrease demand for buying an auto, but increase it as people will want to swap out auto's at a far more frequent pace and a month auto payment will be normal for ever like electric bills.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-ford-full-self-driving-cars-last-4-years-crushed/

Seems like the first tests of building model 3 cars at the China Tesla Gigafactory are going well and the first one is expected off the assembly line Aug 29th. Leaked pictures show the first few auto's going through the assembly process.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-gigafactory-3-footage-model-3-trial-production-video/

 

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Not a single proposed model on the horizon with a sub-median msrp. Even if costs drop so radically that its possible, manufacturers will never do it.

No one has better economies of scale than Tesla, and there the Model S, which used to be $57K, is now $81K.

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3 hours ago, balthazar said:

Not a single proposed model on the horizon with a sub-median msrp. Even if costs drop so radically that its possible, manufacturers will never do it.

No one has better economies of scale than Tesla, and there the Model S, which used to be $57K, is now $81K.

Sounds like the challenge should be to make a Chevy Trax EV cheaper than the ICE version.  Same with Equinox and Traverse.

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1 minute ago, riviera74 said:

Sounds like the challenge should be to make a Chevy Trax EV cheaper than the ICE version.  Same with Equinox and Traverse.

Seems people keep thinking that Economy of Scale will never happen to EVs unlike how it happened to ICE. Early 1900's you had people that laughed at the auto and said the Horse and buggy would never die. 

Amish continue to prove you can survive living in the past at a static point in time, but clearly not scaling up like modern society.

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It will happen one day, just not any day or year soon. Certainly not by “2023” or “2025” as recent articles have proclaimed.

RE the early days of the auto, you were changing the very means of conveyance. In order to mimic todays IC vs. EV, you'd have to try and convince the Year 1900 consumer to trade his horse conveyance for a cow.

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8 hours ago, balthazar said:

It will happen one day, just not any day or year soon. Certainly not by “2023” or “2025” as recent articles have proclaimed.

RE the early days of the auto, you were changing the very means of conveyance. In order to mimic todays IC vs. EV, you'd have to try and convince the Year 1900 consumer to trade his horse conveyance for a cow.

I will agree to disagree with you on this as the ice versus ev is no comparison to a horse and buggy versus cow. Electric is certainly no cow.

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