oldshurst442

Yeah...I know. You disbelieve.

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/chinas-biggest-car-brand-launches-031639709.html The bolded parts have all kinds of implications. Especially if those goals are met... We could dismiss all of that, but I find it intriguing to where Geely wants to go in the global market place. Especially with what they own or co-own and/or are partnered with... Couple that with the many other Chinese cheaply priced EVs and things get real very quick to what kind of future awaits us in 2035...

Oh...THAT is actually a thing. Its actually a way of life in MANY places on this planet. JUST because in America we like to live large does NOT mean the rest of the world lives large like we do. But dont kid yourself, even in North America, there is a big enough movement to where our very own society is ceasing to consume voraciously and couple that to where the ones that DO consume voraciously wont be able to because our personal debt load cant sustain that shyte any longer and before you know it, we in North America WILL start living like my mom did in Greece... Forget EVs, Balthy...we might be buying donkeys... 1. to farm our own lands again and to use as personal transport. 2. probably cheaper to buy, own and maintian a donkey than it is a car. Any car. And yes, Im being sarcastic. But not really. We do have a huge poverty problem in North America and it aint getting smaller or resolved. So by you mentioning the tiny house revolution as a way to mock this, Ill turn it up and make sure that we are aware that North America's poverty problems and personal debt load is severe... A tiny house in 2035 might just BE the norm in North America to go along with that crude 4 000 dollar Chinese EV...

Well.. Consumers wont have a choice... ICE will be banned past 2035... Cry, yell, moan, bitch. Or laugh. ICE is no longer going to be sold past 2035. Oh...your classic V8 car. Yeah...you will be able to own that. Wont be able to daily drive. Probably only on a track or on a "special" 'remember the good 'ole days' day 2 times a year or something...

Still doesnt change the fact that: 1. American market car sellers are pushing higher priced cars on us 2. We...are continuing to buy higher priced cars and we buy into the useless tech they push on us that inflate the prices. In fact, they dont need to push that shyte down our throats because we are the ones DEMANDING that shyte be sold to us. 3. Cars that we cant afford hence the 84-96 month payment plans and leases we like to do 4. there will come a time when we wont be able to afford none of all that 5. there WILL be SOMEONE to offer lower priced cars eventually, even though NOW we, as American and Canadian consumers, are scoffing at that idea 6. And it WILL be cars that are rudimentary despite the fact the we are currently snubbing that trend and we want uselss shyte in our cars that cost a fortune but the car makers also make money off of our stupidity. 7. Because as a North American society going forward, we are living more and more on debt...and something will give, sometime in the near future. 8. couple that with the banning of ICE...because THAT is our destiny 9. so...there WILL be a BEV that WILL be downgraded in features for our boring daily routine drives. Be it a BEV from China or some other start-up because by the way it looks, GM, FoMoCo, Toyota, VW are only interested in making big bucks off of shyte we really dont need in our cars inflating the price tags...like I mentioned Or...GM, FoMoCo, VW, Toyota will reverse that trend. Maybe we as a society will come to our senses. Or...by having one manufacturer producing one platform and selling it to the many OEMs that want to sell an EV to the masses... (yeah...this argument again) But there WILL be a solution...

Time stamped to where I wanna it to be And if you listen to that... you will realize that its NOT just EV vehicles that are expensive for the everyday American, but ICE powered cars too. And THE solution that YOU folk want, well, it might NOT be from GM, Toyota or VW, like I say as well, that an affordable EV will come from traditional big ICE players, but from some start-up that will find and break the code as he says... And it WILL be EV... and THAT is how India WILL be 100% EV by 2030. Here in North America...well We too, might go the way of owning CRUDE cars like the Model T once was... Prices of ICE cars are shooting waaaay up, yet all I hear about in this thread at least, is the cost of BEVs being out of reach and out of touch... We all need a reality check...on all sides from all sides concerning all sides.

I dont think Cadillac will cease producing V8 'Slades that early in the decade despite Cadillac's determined EV destiny.

1970 Buick Electra 225 coupe and sedans.

I didnt listen to the other reports. I was just interested in the Cadillac news. If that is what was said, Ill join you with the hysterical laughter

I wish I had more info on this, but it seems that Escalade and Escalade ESV will be offered in both V8 and Battery Electric in 2024. Ultium battery operated.

So...you would punch ME in the face? ? I am a Cowboys fan too. (I LOVE that gif)

You could buy automobiles at Starbuck's now? Since when? ?

Yeah...I remember seeing such a vid. I didnt realize its this same Buick. Ill go searching for it on here later in the afternoon

Just as I was going to bed...Im very sleepy you know...you just HAD to start the boogie. Now I cant. Good night people!

^^^ I could arrange that!

Yeah. Its awesome. I know you wanna visit Quebec for other reasons too, but if its ONLY to see the fall colours with the leaves changing, Vermont does it nice too if our borders arent open still by then.

Isnt hockey great? Such a strong emotion that the game gives us, that we want to punch our opponent's fans in the face. I mean, in football, there are some team's fans you wanna clobber. Eagle's fans. Raider's fans. Some say Cowboy's fans. But that is where the hatred ends. In hockey though...EVERYBODY wants to bash in EVERYBODY's face in. Yeah...Hockey is awesome! You could feel the love in the air. Beautiful. Just beautiful. Bora Bora and the big mountain in the background and it looks like King Kong could reside there. Pago Pago and it looks like the calm before a nasty torrential rain storm.

Crazy. Yes! Even crazier if there is gonna be a buyer for it at that price. But it is such a niiiiice car though. Wouldnt mind owning it.

Habs fans certainly need a punch to the face. Well...Habs fans of the '80s. Today's Habs fans are just...well...you got to feel sorry for them. More pathetic than Habs fans are Maple Leafs fans. Ive heard though, the absolute worst fans are Bruins fans (from Boston....Im a good fan as Im...not from there...) and Flyer's fans. Well...Ive heard that Boston and Philly sports teams fanatics in general are jerks. So...could I make a suggestion? Wouldnt you rather punch a Bruins and Flyers fans in the face instead?

Phoque off with that shyte There is no place for that kind of talk here. Speak what you need to speak, but if you are proven to be an idiot, then you are an idiot... Dont insult others for your idiocy...

Steppenwolf (Canuck rock rules!)

YEAH! I BET! LOL Claude Lemieux...ex Hab player was THE reason for all that heated Detroit/Colorado rivalry. And what a fun ride that was. And now his son is playing with that same dirty shytyness with the Rangers. And Claude would be one of MANY reasons why I say the Habs are such a hypocritical hockey club and why I hate them so. I cheer for the Bruins because the Bruins actually have always played CANADA hockey. Meaning: CANADA hockey IS intimidation. CANADA hockey IS separating the player from the puck (with clean hits) CANADA hockey IS defending your fellow teammate when the refs dont wanna call the right call on the ice. And the Bruins do NOT shy away from that. They wear THAT style of play with pride. Detroit does also. And the many other NHL teams as well. But the HABS hockey club like to say they are above all that...but they aint...

> "And then Australia with just 66"< Yeah, just 66 species... Considering ALL of Canada, let alone Quebec where I reside, has only but a handful of venomous animals and from those maybe 1 or 2 could be deadly. I dont think "just" is a viable descriptive adjective to downplay Australia's rank...

I was just going to comment on how I saw 3 EV CUVs today on the way to a junk food grocery run but Balthy's Cutlass convertible just makes my news seem irrelevant and nondescript... Since I did come here to post something... 1. Tesla's red hued Model Y. Parked at the grocery store. Although the Model Y would be the frumpiest and ugliest of all Tesla vehicles, I must admit, Tesla's red colour is awesome and it goes very nice with this CUV... 2. White Ford Mustang Mach E. A suburban 35-40 year old milf-ey wife with two kids in the back. Divorcee? and part of her settlement was to purchase this to stick it to her cheating ex. Or maybe SHE was the one cheatin' and her new beau bought her this? All speculative of course as I like to conjure up stories in my head when Im out and about trying to entertain myself when my wife and kids are not with me... 3. Black Jag iPace. Boring Jag. Nothing of interest to report other than it was...black. I didnt even want to bother with who was driving it...