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I with you Wings. A Vette at 6 bucks an hour...hell, Ill take a Vette at 106 bucks an hour... Trust me though, especially since the Vette aint mine and its Maven's...Ill be doing this to the Vette:

"You know where you are?" IM IN THE JUNGLE, BABY! WHERE I COME ALIVE! I carry my crucifix Under my death list Forward my mail to me in hell East L.A. at midnight Papa won't be home tonight Take a ride with me on the wild side.

Thanks, I have a ton of relatives in that area supposedly but never been there or met them. One day have to drive out and see what other Felts are like in the mid west. Im envisioning this for you: All in the name of fun...of course Mr DFELT!

Hey!!! I pity the fool who dont like Journey! They got good music! I faithfully listen to their music still today. I have never stopped believing in Journey. Steve Perry's voice is like a fine wine...sherry wine. so...who's cryin' now for avoiding Journey? (I couldnt fit this song in my little story, but Id thought Id force it on to you folk anyway! )

Any automotive CEO that says that is a liar, a cheat and an imbecile... Eldorado is a made up name. Spanish in nature, but made up. Sounds good. Oh..people also recognize it all over the world. Phaeton, a former Cadillac name....its also well recognized all over the world. VW even uses WORLD WIDE... Rolls Royce uses plain old English... Phantom, Wraith, Ghost...WORLD WIDE. Bentley uses English and French, Continental, Mulsanne. Bugatti...Veyron. Lamborghini...Countach, El Diablo, Reventon, Gallardo, Huracan, Veneno, Aventador... Funny, everybody on the damned planet knows that these are all Lamborghinis!!! Hell, even Ferrari has joined the real name party somewhat... Enzo, LaFerrari. I get the notion...for the last time, I understand that alphanumerics places the brand ahead of the model... I still call bullshyte on that logic as those real names I mentioned dont take ANYTHING away from the brands they represent... Like I said, if someone says they drive a Countach, even in 2016, people know its a Lamborghini! Ditton for Egoista...and people know EXACTLY what EXPENSIVE model it is!!! Their is NO confusing a M3 as a 2 door, because that is what it was before, no confusion on the 2 Series being the former 3 Series which is now the 4 Series...and what displacement is it???!!! No confusion on ATS is the new CTS. No CT6 will be the former CTS, the CT5 is the new DTS...what about the STS? Oh...that would be the new CTS... When someone says that Elvis loved his Eldorados, they immediately think get off 1 for the money, 2 for the show and stay off of my Blue Suede Shoes while I drive my Pink Cadillac...Eldorado... (OK...maybe Eldorado is from a bygone era, I get THAT...so..El Miraj then!!!) Continental...from Lincoln...funny that people did not confuse this with the Bentley of the same name...but tied it to LINCOLN!!! And...somehow...the last Continental car from the early 2000s did not even cross people's minds...the classic 1960s and 1970s style was front and center in their minds... THAT should be proof enough for ANYBODY to STOP defending and using alphanumerics on their cars!!! Thinking of YOU, JOHAN!!!

True Drew, about ST... I LOVED the name STS...but I loved the name Seville Touring Sedan even better. Cut short to Seville is still best in my opinion. Its grateful that the powers that may be cut short the STS moniker, or else we would have STDs running around today for other model names.... So yeah, I dont like the ST# either. But...I guess where their is a will, there is a way.

I could not be in more agreement with Balthazar over the stupid alphanumeric bullshyte! And the full line of models bullshyte spanning all the price levels... And Mr. Cubical, I personally think that 40 000 is still too low of a market for Cadillac. But if there is a need for a Cadillac model that low in price for profitability purposes, so be it. Ill still stick to my original dream Cadillac list...but the CT1 roadster STARTS at $50 000. OK...$40 000... Cadillac also needs to revisit XLR...but better executed...with a HIGH PRICE TAG as well as a Ciel convertible. The Ciel could be an El Miraj coupe convertible or a CT8/CT9 4 door convertible just like how the show car was/is.

I did not know you had 2 kids already. I thought it was just you and your wife. That is even better news that I learned from you today! Yeah, Frisky. The RAV4 is a good little car. Good choice! (I just thougth Id post something funny. Whether my post translated into laughter or not, I tried.)

Well, I should get some sort of credit as I did get the Toyota replaces Toyota comment right. Well, Frisky. You just gave me another way I could use this emoticon... In all seriousness though. Good for you for that purchase. If that is what the doctor ordered for your family needs and pocket book, regarding fuel economy and such, so be it! Rav mothereffin 4. In all its CUV cuteness and all. The 4Runner was such a GREAT SUV. A REAL SUV...*SIGH* The RAV4...SIGH* a soccer mom appliance. *SIGH*... But, HEY! THAT is the right vehicle choice for you! GOOD ON YOU! ^^^^ YES...ALL SARCASTIC this tone is!!! (But you snickered and DENOUNCED the minivan suggestion...yet the RAV mothereffin 4... ) SERIOUSLY THOUGH!!!! CONGRATS ON YOUR NEW ACQUISITION! ENJOY IT! FILL IT UP WITH KIDS!!! YES...GET CRACKIN'!

He said it was Japanese though.

Toyota HIGHLANDER. Toyota replaces Toyota.

Well, the El Miraj is a coupe, the Ciel would be a convertible version of the coupe. Or the Ciel would be a 4 door convertible of the CT8 or CT9 sedans. But OK...a Cien-esque super car sounds like a product the world has never seen before. Im all for it! And, looking back at my list and Casa's list, this is why I still think this naming scheme has Cadillac backed into a corner. CT2...sub ATS car Where does a coupe version go? CT1? OK...I guess Cadillac wont do any kind of roadster, then...what about convertibles? I guess a new letter will be added, like XT for SUVs... CT3 is ATS CT4 is ATS coupe CT5 is CTS sedan... I guess no CT5 coupe? cool, but they do need a BMW 6 Series coupe and 6 SeriesGC competitor...remember, the CT6 is a mid-sized sedan...slightly larger than the current CTS... A new letter shall be added? OK...CT4 and CT7 disagrees with that... CT7 as far as we know WILL be an El Miraj type coupe... CT8 is a sedan as so is a CT9....quite possibly... This new naming scheme SUCKS! Casa, you could make fun of CT0, but this is where its going...and CT10 and CT11 and CT12 just sounds stupid! Actually...so does CT6 and CT4... Ive posted something similar before, I aint going down that road again....but I wish Johan would clear up this mess his predecessors created. I have faith in him products wise, and Drew has cleared up the confusion that it wasnt Johan to start the alphanumeric CT stuff, I hope he realizes that CT2, CT3, CT4 and so on does not exactly leave much room for logical expansions.

I was gonna say Lincoln MKX next, but since it was mentioned already, Im sticking to my choice of Ford Flex. EDIT: If it was the Flex, you woulda said bingo. Nissan Murano.

Ford Flex

A Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8.

Well...if a CT2 vehicle is in play and "smaller" than an ATS (CT3), then my dream Cadillac is as follows. CT1 = A Saturn Sky type roadster to do battle with the upcoming new BMW Z5. Obviously on the Alpha platform and obviously heavily engineered from the Camaro...but the CT1 being a real 2 seater as the Camaro technically has seats in the back. CT2 = This sub ATS..I want it to be as close to as possible in all specs to the BMW 2 Series and M2. Length, wheelbase and performance. CT3 = ATS, slightly larger than what it is now, but slightly smaller than a current BMW 3 Series. CT4 = ATS coupe. Slightly larger than what it is now, but slightly smaller than what a BMW 4 Series is. Nix the Buick Avista, let this Buick Avista morph into an ATS coupe with a definite "GC" model. CT5 = CTS CT6 = In the very near future, let this CT6 evolve into a BMW 6 Series GC and a M-B CLS 63 competitor. CT7 = El Miraj....and call it the El Miraj if Eldorado is deemed to old phogeyish! CT8 = S Class competitor. And call it whatever...but not effin CT8. CT9 = Roll Royce competitor, M-B Pullman/Maybach... And call it whatever you want, just dont call it CT8. Rolls Royce and Bentley both have actual names in tjis category,...Cadillac should do the same thing here...Call it the Sixteen. CT10 = A convertible...like the Ciel...and call it the Ciel. Either a 2 door, but Id rather a 4 door convertible exactly like the Ciel, based on the CT7/CT8/CT9. An electric/hybrid supercar along the lines of a Mercedes SLS/Gullwing, without the actual Gullwings and call that car the Evoq. Or Provoq. Escalade remains...in the very essence of what an Escalade is all about with the name intact!

I was just gonna mention the 4Runner...so Ill go with you replaced it with a GMC Acadia.

I think that my educated prediction from a few weeks back, base don JDN's words, is that this vehicle.. ready for launch late '17, as an '18 model.. will be of similar size internally to the current ATS, while the ATS(CT3) gets a size bump in line with the ATS-L.. price??? How much U wanna bet maximum on the CT3 will be a +$700 bump from the previous year of teh ATS. This sub-ATS will come in at a relative $29,999 If waz u iz sayin' iz tru...WTF is Cadillac doing offering cars in this price range? I read your insight about the 500 000 units for Cadillac versus Balthazar's, and I must admit, I agree with your vision rather than his, however...in a situation like this...Im with Balthazar and in no way in hell do I want Cadillac to attain 500 000 units with cars that are mostly sold in this price range...THIS does NOT make Cadillac top tier luxury. THIS makes Cadillac more like BMW...hell, more like Chevy....(yeah...I dont really care that it will have RWD) I envision Cadillac to become THE world's most prolific and most luxurious brand in the world. I envision Cadillac to be the Standard of the World again. Full of obnoxious entities that piss of the poor. Because, top 1%ers live a life of luxury that the poor are envious of, but are so over the top that that also pisses them off. And THAT is where I want Cadillac to be. However... I DONT envision Cadillac selling Cadillacs even below in price to the Buick Envision... (yes...Pun very much intended) Hell...with the Buick Avista shown,and potentially being built Im having a hard time accepting a Cadillac ATS coupe or sedan even being sold at Cadillac...let alone car smaller and less expensive than an ATS. Id rather have Buick sell the Alpha platformed car...

Wow. Yet another legend dies. Before I knew about a Glen Frey, before I knew about the The Eagles there was a tune that I loved hearing on the radio, and it played often enough. Then Beverly Hills Cop happened and I was finally introduced to Glen Frey officially. and who could forget those Pontiac commercials? About this time I was introduced to yet another Eagles tune. I got my first CD player in 1989 or 1990. My first CD was Hotel California. Yup...Def Leppard was just coming off a high. I had bought all their albums...in cassettes form. AC/DC was releasing Thunderstruck, which I bought...in cassette form. Aerosmith released Pump around this time, which I did not buy. Scorpions also released Crazy World at this time, which I bought as a CD...was my second CD purchase. I chose to buy a late 1970s album on CD as my first CD purchase. Goes to show you how powerful The Eagles are. RIP Mr Frey!

The Buick Avenir...WE HAD IT ON DISPLAY!!! CANADIAN PREMIER...WOOHOO!!! I think the Avenir also is one of these vehicles. The first time I saw it in pics I was wowed by it, but quickly got bored with it. But seeing it person, the Avenir has a certain elegance to it that pictures dont do justice. And its bigger than what it looks like in pictures. Anyway, the MKZ, if they could fix the odd back end, it might just become a great seller because the new front end makes it look that much more elegant and expensive. And if a new 3.0 ecoboosted 6 comes along with, what, 400 horsepower, it will definitely turn the tide. Wow...I have come full circle in accepting the MKZ...who knew?

Well...I went to the Montreal Auto Show today. They had the new MKZ on display, on a pedestal. People could not get close to it, but admire it from afar. I must say, the new face is very attractive. It out-Jaguars Jaguar in my opinion. Very similar look, but I think the MKZ pulls that look better. At least from the front because from the back....YIKES! What Im trying to say is that the front end looks very classy. Now, I think the front end of the Continental will be that much more majestic than the MKZ. So, I could now at least imagine what journalists keep on saying that the Continental has presence. Based on looks alone, I think the Continental has nothing to worry about. People will admire it. And THAT is a HUGE step forward for Lincoln.

Phew.... I thought maybe Ed was a long lost uncle or something, or worse, a family member being a victim... I dont know too much of the real story. Other than what one would normally find on the internet...wikipedia type information. I saw the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre sometime in the early 1980s on Beta. I rented the 2000s remake on DVD. I decided to google the movie sometime after I saw the remake...because the ending scared the bejesus out of me....the part where the officer enters the home and the narrator states that this is the only real footage of leatherface ever to be caught on camera...I had to really know if that was true... Yes I know, sometimes I could be gullible. Anyhoo, this is a thread about music...so let the music play... Another early to mid 1980s song I remember quite fondly.

@ Balthazar Well, I know that pic of yours is of Ed Gein. And I know that is his farmhouse. And I also know that the movie was inspired by him. So...I thought that you might be a fan of the movie The Texas Chainsaw Massacre...original form the 1970s and the modern 2000s one. So...I thought I was being clever in what I posted, because I do find that particular song eerie in which I thought I was funny in making a connection with your avatar pic. Personal? As in you are somehow connected personally to that farmhouse? If you dont feel like answering that question, Ill understand, I mean, I wont know why and how, but I wont press my luck any further type deal.

That is some very eerie stuff. The kind of music Id be listening to on that front porch right there Firin' up the 'ol chainsaw for some cuttin' of some sorts...

This post was edited by me...and the song is directed towards me.. I got to know when to hold them, when to fold them, when to walk away and especially when to run... I know how to play the game...but in this game is when I keep my mouth shut!