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Some here prove that, once again, that sales only matter when it suits one's agenda. Some perspective on that. Yes the Mustang is leading in sales this year. Again, that is no shock because it is a good car overall and it going against an outgoing model. The sales of outgoing the Camaro though, have been higher than the outgoing Mustang at this time last year (and the months prior. Example: 2015 Camaro sales for October 2015-5289 sold while the outgoing 2014 Mustang sold 4565 cars in October 2014. This pattern held true for the last few months prior as well (the Mustang sold just over 3158 cars in Sept. 2014 while the 2015 Camaro sold 5246 Point is that crowing about being a sales leader against an outgoing model is not telling the whole story. Comparing outgoing models is a more accurate reflection. Now when the 2016 Camaro hits full production stride, then the sales argument will really be on. As it is now, it's just silly to compare the two but some folks have to crow about something I guess. Nice edit.
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I swear I have to hire someone on my payroll to check your posts for partial truths and misquotes surreal. Is that why you did not quote me? Here is my quote in it's FULL context......"And then there is the looks. Sorry, GM dropped the ball on camaro." No. I made my statement because what you say is pure opinion and you can only bring that up because of the performance shortcomings of the Mustang. Sorry I didn't make that clear enough for you the first. I can accept that my wording was a little off but I am telling that you need to watch this tact you have been taken with me. From the "Jar Jar" remarks to the general "eff you" (your words yesterday after getting called out on the GT500 thread), you absolutely need to start treading lightly here. So let me sum this up again, for you. Ford dropped the PERFORMANCE ball with this generation Mustang and there is nothing you can say about subjective little things like the looks of the Camaro, that is going to change that.
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Only you could say that the Camaro could drop the ball. Well, given that the Camaro thus far is the performance standard bearer (and again that is what these cars should be about) and they "dropped the ball" according to you (and you alone), what does that say about the Mustang that it is beating in said performance?
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Having driven the Transit a few months ago to move a sectional, I honestly say that I am not surprised by its success. It is a surprisingly nimble van for its size and quite comfortable to drive.
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You were told for while that it was not targeting the S class, just for the record.
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And he misses the irony in yet another statement without understanding or acknowledging the context in which the original post was said. Well, I guess when you run out of ammunition, that is the route you have to go. Strange that as a new mod, with his new mod powers, you can't see that. Not my problem though.
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Well there isn't a 1LE version, is there? There isn't a GT500 yet either but that didn't stop you commenting on that thread did it? Was that not a thread about a possible GT500 right? How dare one talk about a possible GT500 in a thread about a possible GT500. And this here thread is about the GT350, right? Now pay special attention to what YOU said. "Well there isn't a 1LE version, is there?" And the I said there isn't a GT500 either. Now based on that fact, why can he not bring up a car that isn't here yet when you did the exact same thing? The answer is he can. Why would even say what you said about the 1LE? The answer is because you were trolling him.
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Well there isn't a 1LE version, is there? There isn't a GT500 yet either but that didn't stop you commenting on that thread did it?
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Let's Make a Deal: Cadillac CT6 Will Start At $54k
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Wait wait wait man! I need to start my popcorn!
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Oh and lastly...topic please because this isn't about marketshare. It's about GM recalls on twenty year old cars.
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And that tale told here about GM Market Share increase was a what then?Maybe you missed the above part where GMs retail sales growth far exceeded Fords and as a result their profits have increased as well, hence me saying that they are going the Ford route. You should be taking that as a compliment but of course it appears that went right over your head. Maybe you missed the part where ' the tale told here about GM's Market Share increase was what then?' It appears that went right over your head. So you did not read the article at all. Thanks for confirming that because I never said one thing about market share prior. That's you trying to put words in my mouth. Now head on back over to the 2017 GT500 thread so that you and your buddy can keep each other company and work on those up votes. Oh, that's right. You ran outa votes for the day. Oh well.
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It really wasn't though. Ford has played it smart with managing their production and inventories, as well as reducing their dependence on rental sales. GM is following suit and that is a good thing.
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And that tale told here about GM Market Share increase was a what then?Maybe you missed the above part where GMs retail sales growth far exceeded Fords and as a result their profits have increased as well, hence me saying that they are going the Ford route. You should be taking that as a compliment but of course it appears that went right over your head.
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Yeah, they are just going the Ford route and focusing more on profits. http://www.autonews.com/article/20151012/OEM/310129962/gm-claims-victory-even-as-its-market-share-slips "GM's share of more-profitable retail sales this year has grown faster than for any of the other six largest automakers, figures from the Automotive News Data Center show. GM has dialed way back on sales to rental-car operators, long its favorite sales-goosing trick. Transaction prices are up, while incentive spending has remained below that of key competitors." in addition, "But this year's downtick is largely explained by a 50,000-unit reduction in the number of vehicles headed to rental lots, a 14 percent drop. GM's 7.2 percent retail sales growth topped all major automakers, including Toyota (up 2.9 percent) and Ford (up 5.1 percent)." It helps when you tell the whole tale.
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Simply baffling how the obvious is missed and the only counter is to act like a child when the subject is clearly being discussed. Now that the dust has settled for now regarding the SS vs. GT, I want to see what this new model Camaro is, i.e. the possible 2017 ZL1/Z28. With what they have already accomplished with the SS, the next model up is going to be a beast!
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I am talking about the topic and have clearly stated as to the hows and whys of that. How about you? Repeatedly saying "topic please" is, in fact, not staying on topic. Again, great win for the Camaro.
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It's funny when one brings up "pipeline dreams" when they are guilty of pulling that tactic themselves every time a Mustang loses a comparison to the Camaro. "Just wait two more years and Ford will update that power and tranny to beat the Camaro" or something to that effect. I mean all it needs is more gear and more power right? That is the very definition of "pipeline dreams". Topic please. Follow your own advice. "Ahhhh, pipeline dreams. Until then, G T 3 5 0" And me pulling a comment about the Mustang needing more power and more gears is directly on topic, unlike mentioning the unrelated GT350. Back to you Bong.
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It's funny when one brings up "pipeline dreams" when they are guilty of pulling that tactic themselves every time a Mustang loses a comparison to the Camaro. "Just wait two more years and Ford will update that power and tranny to beat the Camaro" or something to that effect. I mean all it needs is more gear and more power right? That is the very definition of "pipeline dreams".
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Weighing less and having more gears will do that. No doubt. Crazy that some can't admit that GM knocked it out of the park on this Camaro, where the previous gen. was a solid double.
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I would love to see a head to head between the SS and the GT350. They are both great cars and no doubt they would put down some crazy numbers.
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Ram News: Under Consideration: Full-Size SUV for Ram
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RAM is long overdue for a full size entry in the SUV field. A RAMCharger Hellcat edition would be a thing of beauty, even though I don't really care for SUVs that much.- 45 replies
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Ram News: Under Consideration: Full-Size SUV for Ram
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" No I was talking about Nissan. No wait, I was talking about Nissan and Toyota.."Yes, your changing of story while throwing in a name call jab is an epic fail. So you're a mind reader now and you knew exactly what he was talking about when he said it, even though there are five players in the full size game, and three of those are all on older bones? Man, that's impressive. Bravo! Nice of you to chime in. Wouldn't be complete without you sticking your nose in. Thanks for the input. Listen man, I'm just impressed by your mind reading capabilities. It is truly impressive to know what someone is thinking even when they haven't said anything. Again, bravo!- 45 replies
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Ram News: Under Consideration: Full-Size SUV for Ram
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I'm not sure how "Kreskin" is an insult here. He's an amazing mentalist. http://www.amazingkreskin.com/- 45 replies
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Ram News: Under Consideration: Full-Size SUV for Ram
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" No I was talking about Nissan. No wait, I was talking about Nissan and Toyota.."Yes, your changing of story while throwing in a name call jab is an epic fail. So you're a mind reader now and you knew exactly what he was talking about when he said it, even though there are five players in the full size game, and three of those are all on older bones? Man, that's impressive. Bravo!- 45 replies
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