surreal1272

Cite your claim.

Suuuure you are, now that you realize that they sell in that high of a percentage under $50K. You have fought that notion, tooth and nail for years now but again, you have that bar to move so… So they are, in fact, a volume brand now (yet another notion that you have fought for years)? Which shows that people are dumb to buy an overpriced CUV with Lincoln inspired derivative exterior design. Noticed you have no counter for that rather lazy design on such a pricey EV just because it says “Maybach”. Honestly, it is pretty laughable right now.

They don’t have YOUR credibility and clearly you don’t count since you have made it abundantly clear that it’s German or nothing even when the German garbage. It clearly matters to you because you have repeatedly touted their high ATPs even when it’s not, relative to the competition. Just skip the part where the $145K models represent probably less than 1% of their overall sales. It CLEARLY matters to you. Stop pretending otherwise.

And that’s my point. They are direct competitors while being vastly different in size and price range, which runs counter to his little narrative that the EQS should not be compared to the Tesla Model S for those very same reasons. It should be noted that the Slade is four inches wider than the GLS.

Probably a little bit of both.

Again let me correct this for you German auto fan. “All the foreign AND domestics will have big line ups of EV’s” Because, as I’m sure you are aware, the Germans are not the only ones with multiple EVs coming out.

See my above response and rethink your statement. Wasn’t it you that was touting the near $130K Model S Plaid not so long ago?

Guess by his length logic, that the GLS and Cadillac Escalade ESV are vastly different lengths. Escalade (regular wheelbase)-211” Escalade ESV-227” GLS-204-206” See where this is going yet @smk4565 or is it just too hard to admit you were mistaken?

Exactly. Bar moving 101.

And again, the Maybach is vaporware while the Hummer is actually real at this point and will be far more off-road capable than that gussied up Benz. Again, apples to off road oranges. And regarding the Maybach concept EV, Lincoln called. They want their 2015 MKX back. While I am sure the interior will be pure luxury (better be for its price), that exterior is derivative s*** and not even the biggest Benz fanboy will convince me otherwise.

Worse, all the EQE proves on the outside, is that Benz is perfectly capable of designing a slightly uglier Toyota Corolla. The front fender panels are an utter disaster as well but hey, the "best or nothing" lol! First off. You are wrong. Publications sure have no problem comparing the EQS to the Model S. https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-mercedes-benz-eqs-vs-tesla-model-s-specs/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2021/04/16/can-mercedess-eqs-really-challenge-teslas-model-s/?sh=395aaafd78db Care to explain why even Mercedes Blog is comparing the two? https://mercedesblog.com/first-comparison-mercedes-eqs-vs-tesla-model-s/ And let me correct one sentence for you. You said, "5 new EV’s in one day, plus a promise of EQE and EQS SUVs for next year." They did not release five new EVs in day. They merely announced, or promised, five new EVs. Stop the pointless hyperbole and hype already.

Now what we really have to ask ourselves is "What does yet another endless back forth worth of BS with the Mercedes fanboy have anything to do with the ACTUAL subject of the thread?".

When you opt for the lowest volume selling Maybach model, then sure, big price difference. But again, that is not even close to their average volume for that model. Meanwhile, I check the local Benz dealership near me versus the nearby GMC. I see similarly priced models on both lots. That is the point you are sorely missing here. Even on the full size GLS, the bulk of models available are closer to the base price than anything else, same as everyone else and most what was available was the same relative price as the Denali model Yukon’s. Meanwhile, the Yukon sells far more than the Benz so there’s that bar for you to move later as well. Mercedes is not unique and they are not the best for it. It’s that simple. https://www.mbusa.com/en/inventory/Mercedes-Benz-of-Greensboro/59104?sortClass=price-high-to-low&class=GLS:SUV

Just stop. This is yet another broken record post of yours where you completely ignore what was said (by literally everyone else), move the bar, and create another set of rules that reflects your fanboy love. Example? Yes it’s easy for that FWD CLA to cross $50K ONLINE. However, the fact remains that it STARTS $12K under that and I have shown where there are quite a few sub-$50K cars of several Benz models (not showing some pointless custom online order to juice the price like you just did). The Benz dealership near me only has two CLAs on the lot and they are BOTH $48K and reasonably equipped which is what most folks in that price range look for. Stop acting like Benz did not stoop down to the lower market because they’ve been doing for years unless you want to forget that, not long ago, the CLA was advertised as “starting under $30K” before the A Class replaced it as the cheaper model. Again, you refer to sales breakdown posted the other day before you bring up anything else to the contrary. Wouldn’t want your arms to get tired from more bar moving.

Fair enough, if you want to do that but I'm going to stick with my 40% mark.

5 out of the 11 at this Benz dealership in Durham NC (near me) are all on the lot and priced under $50K https://www.mercedesbenzofdurham.com/inventory/new/mercedes-benz-north-carolina.htm?campaignid=10679770509&adgroupid=105717417256&creative=452271233504&matchtype=e&network=g&device=c&keyword=mercedes dealer near me&gclid=CjwKCAjwj8eJBhA5EiwAg3z0m3F_VH42OuOzi_zMWMBnbhUllXrJS6gvWyH8y5g4ky1si9zYi35bAxoC--4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&model=GLC Just saying that the number is probably closer to 40% than 20%.

You skipped their van sales, which were a combined 50K units for 2020 and most of those sell under $50K. Also, when 67% of their "sales" are actually leases, I'm not entirely sure the ATP argument even holds water here. Just my opinion. BTW, the GLC starts at $44K.

Then consider yourself lucky as I have seen this behavior in every state that carries I-40 lol. In this, we are in total agreement. Who would have thought the movie "Idiocracy" was actually prophecy and a documentary rolled into one?

Funny how you only use part of the facts. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fxstreet.com/amp/news/lcid-stock-news-lucid-group-inc-drops-lower-as-pipe-lockup-period-approaches-202108311122 At least, unlike Tesla investors, they were given the option to cash in. Tesla doesn’t give any option for dividends which makes their stock price look good but also way overvalued. This has been discussed before. None of this means the end of companies Ike Lucid though.

It was pretty good, for the record. My dad was the frugal king. I am merely his humble frugal servant.

Hey! Who you calling' cheap? Oh wait. That was me. I'm cheap. Carry on.

This is beyond bad news at the wrong time of the year (like there's a good time to lose your job).

What is with Dodge drivers lately? Not a day goes by, when I'm on the interstate, that a Charger or Challenger driver isn't acting like they are in Cannonball Run. I am over all of them and sadly it's not just the V8 drivers out there. Even the 3.6L fools do that and I don't understand it. Just offering a master class in "How to drive like a complete Jackass: Sponsored by your friends at Mopar".

My workshop is just a straight four channel set up with music in mind, even though the receiver is a Home Theater model. It has a bi-amp mode that allows a straight four channel mode for music, which was my goal to begin with. Regarding my living room set up, you are correct on the speaker brand symmetry importance. I will say that the Infinitys I have to do match up pretty well and have a surprising amount of power for a slimmer profile tower. I'm more than happy with them, for sure. I would never own anything by Land Rover but those are very sharp looking and off road proven, for sure. Just would not want the maintenance and parts hassle.

When my living room is less "disasterly" looking (been rearranging some things), I'll show you my setup. There is a 7.2 Ch Onkyo receiver in mine, Klipsch center and front surround channels and a pair of Infinity Reference (another $15 Goodwill find btw) slim profile floor speakers. Have not added a pair of back surround speakers yet but they will probably be Klipsch as well, just to keep it semi-consistent lol. A really nice turntable is in its future.