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Beyond pricey but damn! I'd still have it if the money was there. Another $10K system in a $1k car lol.

The last part was a bit “trollish” lol.

From what I can tell, neither does Burmester. Both make sweet systems but I’d still take a top notch McIntosh over an equal Burmester, and I have heard both (home systems) but my sound budget does not line up with my real budget lol. Again, dreaming. Agreed on Bose though. Middle of the road stereos and speakers at best.

While I am not sold on the Grand Wagoneer's exterior, the interior is sharp as hell but what really catches my eyes, are the stereo and the maker. Salivating here, is not an option for me. That is my dream build home stereo system maker. Ironically, the system I want from them (The Reference Music System below) probably costs more than a loaded GW. A man can dream though. A man can dream.

To be fair though, most of those stickers were on cars owned by men who had no room to talk, at all, about being fat.

I’m just going to have to disagree with you on that one. There is zero reason to drag race down a public road other than stroke your ego and be an idiot.

Doesn’t mean that public roads are where someone should act like a complete moron.

BS on the timing of this. Street racing long predates the defund movement and has been getting worse for years. Of course, given the source of the article (Fox News), I am not surprised that they are trying to make this seem like a new thing to promote their own BS agenda.

A nice writeup on the new CT5-V Blackwing. I still prefer the profile of the previous gen CTS but the bones and powertrain on this thing cannot be denied AND it comes standard with a manual and is the lightest to boot!. None of the German competition can currently make that claim. https://autos.yahoo.com/2022-cadillac-ct5-v-blackwing-130000292.html

And I'm sure all ten of them will very happy. I still maintain that the Cybertruck was never meant to be a $40K "pickup". It is a huge paid advertising gimmick from a company that does not use traditional advertising avenues. Just my opinion.

Interestingly enough, the Chevrolet deanship near my work has a reasonable amount of inventory (although it's not a very large dealership). What's really odd is that they've had the same four C8 Vettes there for the last three weeks. Strange times.

That does not change my point at all regarding the “best or nothing”.

That doesn’t change his core point. I personally think it’s more of a joke to have a luxury car maker like Mercedes delaying their seven figure hypercar repeatedly over the last three years.

The Venom GT is, in fact, a production car of 24 copies and is real and right now unlike the still vapor-ware future car from Benz.

It is true that the 3rd party car stereo market is shrinking quickly because of these new models with integrated controls for HVAC and such. Then there is the design aspect of these newer models cars. There are options, of course, but they are getting far fewer by the year. It's even worse for these models that have just one big ass screen (like the new Escalade and the Benz hypersreens) stretching across the dashboard.

True but I was just trying to provide one quick example. There are other sources out there, I'm sure.

Drew showed some good examples but look on places like Crutchfield. The big issue now though, is cost because it no longer involves just swapping out a head unit and harness. There are more steps, more parts, and more money involved now. There are also exceptions to this rule as some models just can’t be done like that at all but they are more common then you realize.

And you missed the point by a country mile.

As you have pointed out time after time, no one is cross shopping those two and it should be pretty obvious as to why (and no, it has nothing to with brand cachet). And if that BMW is so damn great at that price, then that makes the $300K Ferrari even more laughable but again, that wasn’t your goal here. It was to move the bar after your previous arguments were called out.

Not if you know what you’re doing and assuming the dash can actually accommodate an aftermarket head unit. Alpine makes several models that resemble the floating tablets in most cars today. Metris makes data link harnesses that will fit most new cars with HVAC controls built in but you have to do your research on them and they may not be available with all models. I know they make some for my Flex but I have to urge to swap out currently and it wouldn’t be cheap to do it anyway.

@smk4565 Since this about Tesla and not the Vette, go ahead and defend the fact the Model S had to be heavily modified to get an unofficial run to beat the Taycan, with a time that really wasn’t much better than said Vette. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.autoblog.com/amp/2019/10/20/porsche-tesla-nurburgring/

Thanks for not disappointing me with the bar moving. In any other comparison with Tesla, you constantly point out 0-60 but when I show you that a base model Vette runs the EXACT same damn time as the Ferrari 296GTB, you change the criteria yet again. Just stop this non-sense already. And neither the Ghibli or Alfa can touch the Vette so thanks for proving my point about what you get for $100K from Italy lol. With the future plans for EVs, that could be a possibility although not entirely necessary.

And you are conflating his argument and putting words in his mouth. And I have already shown you where the Vette runs neck and neck with one Exotic (The 296 GTB) while being DOWN 300HP. (identical 0-60 time, for example). And GM doesn't need build a $300K car when their $100K car already punches the big boys in the mouth with just their BASE MODEL VETTE (a fact you are clearly ignoring here). What happens when the Z06 or ZR1 (with a possible EV connection) comes out? What will you long list of excuses be then? BTW, that $300K Ferrari is really a $200K Ferrari but we will just skip that little fact too. I mean, it should be more pressing to you that GM can get as much performance out of a $100K car than companies like Ferrari can get out of $300K car. Like Olds said, what would you get from Ferrari for $100K? Go ahead and answer that one before moving that bar of yours again.

All those words yet you ignored the core parts of the argument. Like Benz, that name really doesn’t mean Jack when it gets run down by “lowly” Chevrolets (unless they’re seven figure vaporware cars).

You're right. It's lighter, it has 300 more HP, costs $200K more than a Vette, yet runs the same 0-60 time (2.9 seconds) and a dam near 1.4 mile so what exactly is the point of the weight savings, the CF panels, and the 300 extra ponies? Oh yeah, that name that runs side by side with a sub-$100K Chevrolet. In other words, outside of the name you value so much, it offers no real upsell over the Vette unless you just really really love putting out engine fires. I wouldn't trust Ferrari with a D cell battery much less an entire EV. And there is no way in hell that Ferrari can make a sub 4,000lb. EV without massive compromises.