Suaviloquent
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It's been proven time again that timeliness matters more than costs for game-changing vehicles. My bet is that they are project crashing up the butt...but it'll be an expensive proposition. They have an order back log, that is very similar to how capital goods manufacturing companies work. Many times such as in aerospace, you end up with concurrency. When the production begins before the technology is fully matured. With respect to how battery tech continues to improve, buying an electric vehicle often times has the decision revolving around whether you have faith that the range will remain competitive in just a few short years. But again, once you hit a certain range, say 300 miles per charge, and maybe like a 15-20 minute charge time (from a fast charger)....the focus can then be put on cost reduction solely, and increasing infrastructure.
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Might as well be the next Optimus Prime.... Cool stuff, but my first reaction is still WTF....
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Mitsubishi News: Nissan Will Purchase 34 Percent of Mitsubishi
Suaviloquent replied to William Maley's topic in Mitsubishi
I think Nissan doesn't want to deal with rebuilding Datsun back from the dead. -
WTF?
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You know what I think would really work in a CT6? The same Morello Red interior you can get in the ATS and CTS. That would be LUXO, and cutting edge style. I would love to see that.
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Genesis has a V8 too. But the compared to the Genesis, the CT6 is SEXY AS F***
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I have actually sat in the Genesis G90, actually for a while too, in every seat. And while it's got no cachet whatsoever... probably a huge mountain to cover in terms of brand awareness. The interior will surprise many people. Nothing is particularly lavish, but there is a lot of consistency in finishes, and the switch gear is in between the Cadillac and the S550. It was okay in terms of build though. Might have been an early model.
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UGH... Ugh....
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That rotary. Plus barn doors.... Nah....I'd get the Camaro, but I'd paint it bloodlust red.
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Well, I think it makes sense. Anyways, pretty clear the Alfa platform will stay in Alfa.
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Yes. You are not in agreement with me, neither I with you.
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Time will tell. But I can say this - there are automakers out there gunning for the same lunch money at this point. Cadillac has to take everyone seriously. And everyone better take Cadillac seriously.
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SMK....SMH
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This one point about the interior, that's really the only place the S-Class is ahead. Which makes me wonder again why the CT6 ended up as it is. Command is infuriating as hell to use, so CUE handily wins there, but the journalists now like iDrive, whatever that means to anyone. Like everything from a technology and, powertrains and platform area, the Cadillac is easily at the top, outmatching anyone else. But that is something someone new to the brand won't see at first, it can only be felt in the drive, but only if they are actively looking for it too. I don't think there is a single large sedan save for maybe the RLX, that someone will suddenly get out of and not be satisfied with the way it drives. Now here's the thing. I think Cadillac could do exceedingly well by going after anyone looking for a 5 Series, A6 or E Class with this thing. There, oh man it just $h!s bricks on those cars. In that case, the interior is equal or better in every match-up.
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There's also the lower door cards, which, I think only the fiesty would really mull over. There's also just the copious amounts of wood trim, and there are fewer jarring transitions between materials. Like I don't understand why the CT6 has that perforated material around the screen. If they continued the wood or carbon fibre trim to surround the screen, I think that would look cleaner. The air vents are also metal. I may be sounding like someone who's either shallow or tacky - but these are not in MY taste. i don't care really for these features, but luxury buyers - a good chunk of them, they like these tiny details which are rather useless from a functional standpoint.
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You wish to paint me as a Mercedes Lover, I am no such creature. But if it makes you feel justified in hacking insults, well there's plenty of time that you can waste doing so.
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What bar am I moving Surreal? I have clearly stated how the S-Class is a poor value, if there is such a thing in a luxury field of value. The CT6 is engineered as the best vehicle for its size in the world. But those finishing touches, that I agree, everyone has a right to say I'm making a big deal of, is what the difference is between the Cadillac and the Mercedes. If that gap didn't exist, the Cadillac would be the very sedan that could be the head of all flagship sedans.
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No. I'm saying make up your mind. Pick a stance and stick with it. You don't call someone out for that and then go do the EXACT same thing. If you don't understand the problem there, then this discussion is over. It wasn't that Surreal. I took your word at there's no issue with pre-rendered images. I apologize for the confusion, but I realized anything online outside of the image from the configurator had to be models with at least a few options, because I hardly think Mercedes would have a base model for their press fleet.
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Surreal, you just said it's irrelevant whether the image is real or pre-rendered. So now all of a sudden I can't post one? Especially because I can't find an image of the most base model made by Mercedes. the only one that is the most accurate is probably from their configurator. These real life images must be models with at least a few options.
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Again, we can minimize the advantages the S-Class has. But if that is the case, what exactly is holding Cadillac from doing those little things so they can charge that much more by making the interior, as well as the rest of the car unbeatable by any large sedan?
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Whether they are production shots or not is irrelevant as they are all done that way (referring to the three I posted). Again, they rest of what you are saying is purely opinion based while you try to pas it off as fact. But it does get beaten in luxury. Whether by the slimmest of margins in the base S550 versus the designo interior option that elevates the S-Class. Wait... didn't you just bang on someone for using a rendered picture? I couldn't find what I thought looked exactly like the configurator Drew. So I'm not sure that's the base model that you have posted. Everywhere else the CT6 is top notch. The car is truly engineered as a proper Cadillac.
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Here's the base model S-class interior. It's a damn nice place to be, and even the Platinum CT6 can't reach that.
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Those are pre-rendered images. Surreal, I though you were all about real life pics? In reality, it's only the Platinum interior that are truly luxurious in the Cadillac. At it starts at the $80k + price point. Step inside the $63k luxury model and it's a different story as to how interior is so plain jane. I've got the entire weight of automotive media consensus behind me when I say the S-Class interior is superior. By how much, it's really irrelevant. But I still like the CT6 way more than the S-class. That's a terrible bluff Casa. You're really willing to bet that the CT6 doesn't get crushed in interior quality (it's only real area of improvement) by the S-Class? The ATS gets bested by others in interior quality. The CTS, against some also gets bested by a small margin (everywhere else it is fantastic, and the best). The one place where Cadillac does exceptionally well in the Escalade, hell, if that interior was pasted into the CT6, no one would complain, not even the most biased of auto journalists. And remember, I'm keeping the talk specifically to interiors.
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It's a veritable fact that the CT6 does not have an interior to match the Mercedes S-Class. That's not subject to debate. I will also argue that the S-Class is a poor value for money, but Cadillac perhaps doesn't need to be a value of money kind of luxury brand either. I think Cadillac can easily close the gap with Mercedes, and if they wanted to still undercut the Mercedes or anyone else by a fair amount. But since they want organic growth, I think that isn't something that needs to manifest itself.
