daves87rs

Sounds like how I would order mine....

The Regal is still a big seller in China, there is still the Opel/Holden/Vauxhall Insignia (Though for Holden, only sold in GS form). They sold 20k of them in the US up to end of November, 75k Insignias in Europe up till end of October, and 91k Regals in China up till end of November. That's 186k so far this year in just those markets, and I'm missing 4 months of data (December in all three markets, and November for Europe), meaning that total sales of Regal/Insignia are going to be over 200k this year. I don't think the Regal sedan is going anywhere. I do think they will bring the body style variants to other markets. What they probably need to do is move US Regal production back to Europe or over to China so they can consolidate production into two plants instead of three. I could see that happening after Envision breaks the China ice. True, but it should stay in china.....we need something different here. Import the tourer from overseas, and like the CUVs/SUVs take charge here..... Dave right now companies can sell every SUV they can make. It is like printing money. That is the only reason they are getting in with a low number here as it is added income and market share in a segment that is not slowing down. The sedan is not going to go away but it sill be in the minority. As cars get smaller the utility of a vehicle has become important. Automakers see that people who would never buy a Sonic would buy a Trax or Encore. These smaller CUV models also are taking away from the SUV segment too. GM needs to make sure there is a place for them to land in a smaller or cheaper model. The larger models are just going to cost more money and every time gas spikes the sales tank. Not so with the CUV. If GM is not ready in the CUV segment someone else will take it. Right now GM has one of the best line ups and should do well. I was talking about the regal (china part) Buick needs all the CUVs and SUVs they can get.....

Cheers to Bobo!

sara

Yeah, they changed up my Cobalt keys as well.....

My dad sees these things go down the line....he and quite a few workers see them as nothing then Caddy badged Volts......and suddenly-we have have flashbacks of an 80s J body.... While yes, it was a bit more different than the Volt, it simply was not enough. Something more "Bolt" like would have been a much better, offering not only something different, but something a Caddy buyer might actually be interested in! GM killed this....simply by just giving Caddy a pretty Chevy.... I've seen the two together, I would have to agree with my Dad on this one.... I'm not sure that's a fair comparison. The J-cars of the 80s had similar door panels, roof lines, pretty much everything except for some trim pieces and the front/rear clips. I think a better historical comparison for the ELR was the original 1975-1979 Cadillac Seville. Underneath that car was a massaged Chevy Nova platform powered by a Chevy 350cid small block or the unfortunate Olds V8 diesel. The exterior lines and interior of that car wasn't anything close to a Nova. My parents actually had both at the same time...my mother drove a 1979 Seville and my stepdad drove the Nova's twin...a 1975 Buick Apollo. I learned how to drive on the Apollo and drove the Seville occasionally when I was allowed. It was hard to believe they were on the same platform (the Buick was a tired piece of junk). The Seville was also a very expensive car (more expensive than the Fleetwoods of the day) but it was a successful vehicle. The interior of the ELR was quite bespoke for Cadillac at the time and it had a much tighter amount of interior room than the Volt. The ELR's rear seats were a joke...I openly commented to my dealer of why the engineers even bothered (my friend's 911 Turbo had more rear leg room). The 1st gen Volt I sat in during a car show was much roomier, but it had the interior of a Chevrolet that had been looking over the shoulder at a Prius. At the end of the day, the ELR didn't have enough powertrain separation to make it interesting in the new Cadillac (all show and no go with 8 sec. 0-60). And man was it too expensive (interesting how the original Seville was a sales success at a high price). My dealer sold a few of them in the first year but now if you want one, they only come on order. They don't want to stock them. Point is they put a badge on something they did not need......

The Regal is still a big seller in China, there is still the Opel/Holden/Vauxhall Insignia (Though for Holden, only sold in GS form). They sold 20k of them in the US up to end of November, 75k Insignias in Europe up till end of October, and 91k Regals in China up till end of November. That's 186k so far this year in just those markets, and I'm missing 4 months of data (December in all three markets, and November for Europe), meaning that total sales of Regal/Insignia are going to be over 200k this year. I don't think the Regal sedan is going anywhere. I do think they will bring the body style variants to other markets. What they probably need to do is move US Regal production back to Europe or over to China so they can consolidate production into two plants instead of three. I could see that happening after Envision breaks the China ice. True, but it should stay in china.....we need something different here. Import the tourer from overseas, and like the CUVs/SUVs take charge here.....

LIke my neighbor..... Waiting to take a look at these......

Very nice!!!

I think the Regal as a sedan is dead....people just are not caring anymore about....and the new Lax will stick a fork in what is left. Been hearing of them dumping it after this year or next.... Now bring in a Regal wagon (tourer)? Much better idea than a suv, and much better than a sedan. My age group is much more open to wagons/hatches and such. I have no real use for the sedan, but a tourer would let me do more with my family, as the video gives some great ideas.... Same reason why they needed the Cruze hatch like yesterday......

+1

My dad sees these things go down the line....he and quite a few workers see them as nothing then Caddy badged Volts......and suddenly-we have have flashbacks of an 80s J body.... While yes, it was a bit more different than the Volt, it simply was not enough. Something more "Bolt" like would have been a much better, offering not only something different, but something a Caddy buyer might actually be interested in! GM killed this....simply by just giving Caddy a pretty Chevy.... I've seen the two together, I would have to agree with my Dad on this one....

Style? Nope, there was no way anything could have saved it.....even decent GM Marketing!

Interesting......

This car should have never happened. You could just see the failure coming......

Lots of Nissans here....

Rainforest

Just sad...why you do not trust a dealership....

+1 No doubt......

Very nice!!!

Nothing like that here....cheapest I've seen a Cruze was 159 a month with some money down......

Thinking it is a bit overpriced... But good marketing and leases could get it out to the public...and get them hooked on it. Another idea would be the either kill (or fleet ) the LS trim, so the price gap will disappear......

Yeah, the earlier Ions had some issues, but the later ones seem to hold up pretty well....... Yeah they two in our "posession" are '06 and '07. One manual, one auto. I think my sister has no intentions of getting rid of hers any time soon either. It's kind of just their around town, beat around car at this point but they don't have issues with it. Yep, pretty much the same idea I have with it's sister car, my Cobalt. Still unure whether I want a car or Suv, but I know that the Balt will be the beater there (granted, a well cared for beater)

Reminds me a bit of a certain Kia last decade...... Would agree with that as well.....

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