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juno

Sounds like some Chevy (Vette, maybe Cruze refresh), and some new concepts... Anything I'm missing?

But you can tune a turbo.... Good bye 1.8 in the Cruze LS....

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beer

Love the chair ne...

Good news....fixed under warranty!

kong

Good news....nothing a little rain could not solve....

drunk

Good news- I just entered this thread!

Still don't feel better about it....

Never saw the point of them anyways.....want to save gas after buying an suv? Buy a beater car....

Sounds about right.....

concepts!!!

GM switched to the Ecotec (calling these LS Sports) 2.2 midway through the 2002 model year. The Z24 sedan was only produced for about half of the 2002 year.....helped to finish what was left of the 2.4s. No ecotecs in the Sunfire in 2001...just the old 2.2 and 2.4 (for the GT). From 2003 on, J's all had the 2.2 Ecotec......

Year/trim?

I keep looking at the videos myself, I'm still sticking with Olds and Ocn here. Now I have a real good reason to be at the auto show this year....

Holy......

Agreeing with Ocn here. GM is sticking with the more classic look. I see nothing wrong with that....

I don't think, the exteriors and interiors are not bad, but nothing special either. Remember this will be on sale for 8 years probably, if we aren't really impressed now, imagine how dated this package will look in 2020. The engines will be lame, just wait and see. We already know the LT1 has about 5% more hp and torque than the outgoing LS3. Even a 50% gain in horsepower to the 4.3 liter leaves them behind Ford and Ram. the only thing the same about the 4.3 is the displacement, it is otherwise all new. It is supposed to have over 300 horsepower and better torque than the competition's V6es. It isn't going to out-do the Ecoboost V6, but it isn't meant to either. that's what the 5.3 is for. +1 This time around it's not as much about power as it is mileage. If they could get a truck within range of say, my cavalier (30ish), I might just consider one.... Waiting on price as well...

My notes so far: The more I look at it, I'm liking the simple update. Old school chevy look. Fits with their current customer base. Not sure how big an update they could do on the outside. The important stuff is on the inside... Need to see the basic dashes....not the top of the line ones. may not be as busy... Can it really be the old 4.3? Nah.....maybe. Betting this is where most of the money went. Curious to see what milage these are going to get. Can an extended cab base silvy with the 4.3 net me 30mpgs? Hoping AFM works much better than in the past. Have a feeling it will..... Need to see these live..betting they look much better in person...

And I already know of people who had those used against them...people are going to find out quick there are not going to have "rights" while driving a car. While I hate it, there are simply too many drivers (stupid ones)we need this for....

Congrats!