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another screaming reason Opel needs a flagship (to share details with Caddy). or. is it already in progress?

father in laws 08 grand prix doesn't get near the mpg his 98 88 got. the 88 would see 30-33 hwy. the grand prix maybe 26-28.

I'd be curious to know the engine rpm at 70 mph in 6th

getting someone from the computer and tech world in here i think is a nice dose of reality that might backfire, but it might help GM get more in with the times on how fast moving companies need to run their money now.

Great review. Concise, and no witch hunting. Fair, informational. I like it. In particular I love the emphasis on the utility and convenience features, which is why one buys this vehicle. No long diatribes about how it handles 'at the track'. Also like the mpg reports and the pictures too. Keep it up! Can't want to see what mileage you get for the Terrain. I'd be more than happy to test some vehicles too!

blu, are we talking width? Nice looking place, BTW. Well kept.

If Golden Girls makes you go homosexual, then wouldn't just about every senior aged man (and woman I guess)...all our grandparents etc....in this country.....wouldn't they have all gone gay by now? Grandpas come out the closet! Personally, I would think Murder she wrote and Angela Lansbury might have a stronger chance of turning one gay than Golden Girls....but whatever. That police chief on the Mayberry show, he had to be gay, I always thought. He lived with a lesbian aunt Bee. Yup TV will do that to you.

you know what got me angry a couple weeks ago? i was shopping Carhartt threads and I became dismayed because I didn't realize they were making so much of their stuff outside the US? WUWT? I thought Carhartt made everything here?

like a coupon, only valid until..... lets hope GM lets it continue. i don't want to see the 9-5 go to waste.

awesome G8 and Camaro. Love it!

i like this

the odyssey is one of the more overrated vehicles on the market. its well made, but its not really refined enough. I am all for good handling and firm ride but the problem is its compromised.

saturn now has the 6500 off as well.

your point regarding demogaphics is true. the aging populace will KILL us from taxes to health care etc. no ones 'fault' we just need more worker bees to replace the ones retiring.... personally, i think income taxes will double when all is said and done with this.

deflation, surely you jest. if you are talking widgets at walmart, maybe. as in a couple percent. if you are talking commercial real estate rent, then yes, we are down 25, 33%. but that statement all goes to hell when you bring health care thievery into the discussion. i lost work in Jan. we declined my COBRA as to pick it up would have cost 1200 a month fam coverage. instead we jumped on my wife's who was still employed. that was 650/mo at the time and I $h! my pants when they raised it to 950/mo back in July. so all along I have been thinking it might be good to just find an emergency only policy (not the best with a newborn) to trim the healthcare expense. If it were just me I'd go uncovered. Anyways, I do have the option of getting back on COBRA from my last employer. I just got the rates today...... THEY RAISED IT FROM 1200 TO 1800 A MONTH FAMILY COVERAGE. I was speaking with my dad who said the 65+ set is starting to see rate increases in a similar fashion. The health care industry is setting you up for the big kill. First it was mortgage bankers, then Wall street, now the Health Care bunch is going in for the kill. Ultimate point......you can say there is deflation if you are only talking about widgets but you need to add the other expenses of daily life, and who cares if you are saving 20 bucks a month at Walmart if your health care is costing you 7 grand a year more each year. Not only that, even if your employer is footing a lot of it, all that's doing is bringing your wage down. You know used car and car values in general are up at least 5 grand across the board since the crash in 2008. The cost of buying a new car has to have gone up at least 10-20% in the last year. When the market gets hot again, cars will simply be unattainable new or used for many folks. The energy kill group is just laying back in the weeds again waiting for the clear to go sky high with those taxes and costs again too. bob-got a call out of the blue today from a firm, wanted my res. Makes me think some firms may MAY be thinking about some hiring activity after the new year.

still a few g6's and g8's including GT around here. this is snow country so some G8's remain unsold.

50k+? i suppose we can repay uncle sam if enough folks bleed that much cash for it..... I'll take an Ecoboost MKt or Flex at that level of cash. It gets durned close to (fat ugly) Q7 territory at those prices.....

i think a SV g6 is like 20,500. subtract 6500 rebate and a 1k dlr discount (SV not marked up as much) you are at 13. then add back some dough for keyless entry installed.....

altima is FWD. G37 is RWD

seems to me, we accept that Pontiac is gone. G3 pretty much put a nail in that coffin. so, next agenda, how to compete with VW, Acura, Audi, etc. The Regal is the poster child for this and needs a full line. Likewise, to make inroads on the Golf / Jetta / Jetta SW crowd, Astra Buick needs to be offered in sedan, wagon, 3 door, 5 door. Regal needs sedan, wagon, and some would say, coupe. (BLU!) The Regal coupe i wonder if its a regal coupe or a RIVIERA? Buick needs a celebrity spokesperson (not Tiger Woods, LOL!!!!). Dress up Brad Pitt and send him off driving an Astra 5 door. Maybe someone like Denzel Washington in a Regal (even though I cannot effing stand him). Buick needs a woman pitchman, like Cadillac had Kate Walsh. VW builds the bulk of its sales on two full model lines, the Golf and Passat. This strategy will work for Buick if the lines are complete.

Hyundai should be lauded for their effort. I like the 370, but I don't like its bathtub feel and lack of rear seat. So that automatically puts the Gen coupe ahead of it for me. When i sat in one, I did applaud the interior in terms of creating a nice environment and driver's cabin. the rear seats are not bad. The assembly quality is good. However, I felt the plastics were not quite there yet, and the detail elements of the design were bland. On the whole, the exterior is derivitive to me, and lacks sizzle. But for someone who grew up on rice like say, a Prelude, its a nice evolution of the Japanese bland design language. If you like a G37 and can't afford it, you get the Genesis. Most definitely over an Altima or Accord coupe. But............would you seriously spend the money on a Gen coupe when you could have a v6 Camaro or 2010 v6 Mustang? To me, that is the ultimate question. If you want visual sizzle with the steak, you pass on the Gen coupe. Now to actually answer your question, does this surpass Japan? UM YEAH! In many regards, Hyundai and Kia and out Japaning Japan, and its cool to see. No wonder Ford is dumping Mazda. The Japanese mystique (no pun) is gone. Your question only makes the RIck's acquisition of Daewoo even more golden. If you were a Toyota Supra driver from the mid nineties, I think the Gen coupe is what I sort of gather it most comparable too. IN that regard, 10-15 years later to make approximately the same car, doesn't seem like so much of an accomplishment. I think the 2010 Mustang v6 is going to demolish the numbers of the 3.8 Gen coupe.

hey, bob carter, "---K OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!"

confirmed. go to pontiac.com 6500 off or 0/72 and 1500 off.

info on the other GM site claims the rebates are now 6500 on pontiacs.......

tyvek should not be confused with being a 'vapor' barrier. it repels air passage and liquid moisture. this is why its suitable as a housewrap. it performs the function that felts did as far as moisture drainage plane and it is an air infiltration retarder. Yet it allows the passage of moisture vapor. Dependent on your climate, I know here where its freaking cold the true vapor barrier is on the warm side of the insulation which is why here its applied on the studs inside then the sheetrock goes down. By no means should one create a double vapor barrier. It escapes me right now what is typically put behind stucco, that's be easy enough for me to look up I guess. Prob felts. I wonder if this house has a vapor barrier, considering the age. Even if it didn't have a vapor barrier at least the tyvek should help with some air infiltration losses and would not probably cause any harm.