Intrepidation

It makes it fly

I remember I think it was Ford doing something like that once in a commercial, where they had this old pickup through most of the commercial towting how reiable the trucks were. I have almost 208k miles on my ride...to bad it's not a truck. ...or a Chevy... lol

Thise aren't new

Seems pretty safe to me.

Good point, except that they don't share the same platform.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/...175.A10334.html So, we can blame the damn Chinese for helping to jack up prices. On top of that our useless goverment isn't doinga thing to keep the prices in check, and Bush is just making excuses that what he is doing is better than what needs to be done. If nothing else, I'm glad I own a fuel efficient Shadow

Oh, bummer... I missed that when scanning through the thread, my bad Have you considered a Charger? heh heh heh...or is that too pricy?

seen it, on either compfused or planetboredom

Saturns are 07's right? That looks retty good, if you're in the Market for a GMT900, well thing things are good too. There's also the Solstice GXP. Everything else in the GM lineup, sucks (as in nothing new, not taht they all actually suck). Meanwhile, I'm eagerly waiting to see what the new Sebring/Avenger will look like. Can't wait for the debuts!

It's still badge engineering. So much for Lutz saying "no more badge engineering" Then again, no one else seems to get badge engineered stuff these days besides Pontiac.

<-- turned 20 at the end of march Thanks everyone!

*sings* It's beginning to lok a lot like badge engineering

Looks good, if a bit too rounded in the back for my tastes. I hope they have a sedan version...wish the original Ion replacement hadn't be canceled.

Go for it, The current Q is kinda ugy but the one you're looking at looks classy and nicely designed. Of all the Japanese brands, I respect Nissan/Infiniti the most. They're not arrogant, their cars are nicely designed, and they just make good cars. Go for it! To quote blackviper: "Sixty8... you will buy the Q45t... you will love it... just think... all RWD cars... Japan isn't evil... China is... " Get there car, it looks very nice, and since you like the one you have a lot, then you've got nothing to fear about getting another one

No inspections, lucky!

lol I can't remember

That's too bad...doesn't it look cool?

Dude, why buy a BMW when you can have something that awesome! Our cars actually had FM, map light, 2 speakers, and...AND A/C (I think)

Well, first of all the Maibu is ugly. Second of all, it's ugly, 3rd of all it's got a cheap interior, 4th it's more expensive than the Optima, 5th, it only has a 4-speed, 6th it's ugly. Did I mention Malibu hurts my eyes? Anyway, I agree that this review is odd in that it's not very harsh, but at the same time, it's fair. He clearly states it's boring, it's V6 isn't worth buying over the 4, and it's not sporty. But then, it's mission is to be cheap, safe, comfortable, and fairly well built transportation. Which it does well. The other day I was behind a car that I thought had a really nice back end design, now I realize it was the new Optima. From the back, I like it a lot, it's like Lexus IS meets Mazda 6. The front I'm not so crazy over, but hey...it looks better than a Malibu!

Yep, I know

and a new name (I hope) I always liked the name Avenger

Actually, I think it's suppsed to, I heard that would be the only engine available.

I don't think they are pointless either, they just need to be more differenciated and focused on their missions. Do a Roadster, a modern/retro `Cuda, and 2-door Performance SUV (liek the PreVue) Plymouth would be great as a retro/niche brand I think

Dodge engineers have begun testing their four-door spin-off of the next Chrysler Sebring. Whether it will be called Stratus or Avenger is a subject of speculation, but there is no doubt that it takes its design inspiration from the Dodge Charger. Although the resemblance to its Sebring platform-mate is clear, the Dodge gets a distinct front fascia, a unique C-pillar design and - judging from the camouflage on the rear fender and door - a Charger-style rear fender arch. The prototype's taillights are also finished almost identically to those on the Charger. When viewed in profile, the new Dodge has a more formal rear window slope compared to the Sebring, which features a fastback design. The result is a flatter, longer-looking trunk lid on the Dodge, which almost looks as if it has been lengthened a bit. It's more likely that it's an optical illusion and not a dimensional shift, but we can't be sure from this first sighting. Prototypes for the next Sebring have been regulars on the testing circuit for about the past eight months. It seems logical to assume that since this prototype for the Dodge version has just appeared, it's likely to reach showrooms at least six months after the new Sebring goes on sale. Link: http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiast...178.A10327.html Look closely at the tail lights and you'll see they look just like the tail lights of the sneak peak we saw of the Avenger from the Geneva video clip! Sweet! I also like how it looks as though the Sebring and Avenger will look more differenciated than in the past.

Oh... lol. Quite right you are