balthazar

Corvette IS a $50-$100K+ car. Base MSRP of SR coupe is $56K, Z07 is $100K. Weight IS "managable- it's 200-350 lbs lighter than MB, 600 lbs lighter than the nissan. Corvette "road car" will be "way above that"- the ME Corvette C8 is coming.

Took a look at another '66 Toro with my buddy who's lusted after these since he was 12. Drove nice, was deceptively quick, interior very nice. However, squeaky suspension, front end was on a right-to-left tilt, brakes were weak. Headlight vacuum system missing, unique turn signal switch missing. Too many red flags, too much bondo (tho the paint was very nice) for $9500. Another pass.

BMW needs to address the torpedo'ing sales of the core models, not fiddlefart around with 2 new models that together won't sell 400 units between them. This is BMW being 'posh & upscale' : http://indianautosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2015-BMW-6-Series-Gran-Coupe-facelift-interior-press-shots.jpg They don't know how to do anything better, and no one wants it. Abandon ship/segment time.

That's not Fapster. And you can tell because his shirt doesn't say 'poop'. He'll stop back in here in a month to confirm.

How is it "interesting" that a 4-dr sedan outsells a 2-dr sedan in 2017, especially with 'all else being equal'?

The 12 people buying the 6-series 2 door are NOT going to magically morph to the 6-series 4-dr; the car is NOT that compelling and they chose a 2-dr for a reason largely centered around that fact. The 6 sedan is 'another sausage' in the chain. It a tailor made failure in the making.

Wait... so BMW, hoping no one will notice, kills the buyerless 6-series... but is said to be working on a HIGHER PRICED replacement??? How come "journalists" never question the business case insanity of such a move, instead of implying with "fuel to the fire" that's there's a clamoring mass of buyers for such a car?

• 4-doors : phoowie; you can have them 9 out of 10 times. • Not Escalade, the Escala ~

'50-89 ~ '57 Pontiac Super Chief sedan, convert into 2-dr hardtop, add Bonneville 347 FI engine '61 DeSoto 4-dr, convert into 2-dr hardtop, add Chrysler 300-G 413 engine '56 Packard 400, convert into micro city car w rear mount Packard 374 '83 Eldorado coupe, convert into ETC trim, convert to RWD, add powertrain from current CTS-V '94 F-150 RC/LB I6- leave alone except for cosmetics $500K ~ '48 Tucker 48 '56 Olds Golden Rocket '57 Buick XP-75 '05 Holden Effigy '17 Cadillac Escala - - - - I'm sure I didn't follow one or 12 rules with the above.

Who blessed with the gift of sight would willingly drive this ??? I don't find this remotely pleasant from a design standpoint, yet it's 1000 times better than the above repulsive monster : Huh. Looking at these 2 together, I'm struck by the similarity. Was Toyota inspired by the '61 Plymouth?? I need to plant this very seed around the internet!

So. Many. RRUULLEESS.

'57 Merc. Signage says 33K miles.... some details I saw did support this. No price.

Forced to pick, I'd go '59 I think. '60 just makes me immediately think '59 Pontiac (a MILES better & more appealing car), and '58 has some major quirks for me. Ford, having aced the '30s and '40s for the most part, had lost it's styling mojo in the late '50s. Having seen a 2-headlight '57 Merc for sale today, that opinion is pretty well cemented.

Like Mercedes, Ford utilizes global platforms for their cars. You keep saying 'Fusion chassis' but the CD4 platform underpins numerous Ford & Lincoln cars, CUVs and SUVs. Long utilized by domestic makes and just recently, copied by the Germans as 'the wave of the future'. The A6 interior is an aesthetic hot mess- it has FOUR different shaped vents in the dash. A schizophrenic's comfort zone is every other man's visual disaster. Besides, half of the audi lineup uses VW engines (2.0T). Hard pass on audi.

True... in the case of the Edsel. There the grille is pleasantly & organically radiused. But Lexus's is only describable as 'pinched', 'dented' or 'collapsing'. "Spindle" ?? No.

According to Wiki, SolarCity was started by 2 brothers, who are also cousins to Musk. Musk help start the company & was the chairman. Tesla bought SC on 08.01.16 for $2.6B., so Tesla, Inc is the parent Co. & SC is wholly owned.

I don't know the particulars here- is not SolarCity a legally separate entity, or is it a subsidiary/division?

Tanx, DD, I do put concept cars on the tippy top shelf! There's something about a bubble roof and tail fins that gets me all giddy. The Cyclone wins the blue ribbon for Most Knee-Bashing Dogleg!

If Tesla can get a small catalog of models (let's stick with 'S''3''X''Y' for right now), vastly increase the charging network and sit on those models until they pay down some of their capital improvements, they may show a profit in 5 years. But if they continue to steady grow the catalog before the existing (4) models are in the black (IE: the pickup & the semi), it will take a lot longer than that. Hey! the pickup could be the 'B', the semi could be the 'I', then all they need is 'T, C & H' models.

For Drew ~ Destroying Mercedes' record with half the cylinders :

Let's put it this way; from pics, it looks more upscale & luxurious by far than than the Model S. [Disclaimer: I have not sat in either.]

Continental certainly is not "weak" inside.

One of the handful of Olds' I'd strongly consider owning is the second-year '62 Starfire hardtop, and I do like this 'cut-off' ad, that's pretty unusual in car advertising: Also always liked this ad from '50- a ripping car and huge towering '88' numbers:

Oooo Baby; automotive royalty there!!

And... Cadillac does sell $100K vehicles, this has been pointed out repeatedly. I just googled pics of the Model S interior. A few were prototype pics, but other were labeled '2013' and '2015'. Some issues visible of fitment and ergonomics, but would have to sit in one personally to make a judgement. I can tell you that I have a hard time getting past that tombstone screen plunked in the middle of the dash like it is. Overall, a nice-enough $60K interior, but it's not where a $100K interior should be (again: via pics).