Flybrian

Brought enough windshield for everyone? Yes.

Is this the same PRE-SAFE system that ran the cars into each other? And all-new? Talk about a liberal definition. Been there, done that. Like None Other.

I see someone likes the Grand Prix's front overhangs.

The debut wheels are simply horrible. I also suggest not offering wood with the saddle brown interior as that is simply too much brown for anyone's eyes.

They definitely can, though. Look to the previous LR Discovery for the most obscene example of lousy rear door design.

But, the real question is would you take any car that Volkswagen engine was available in?

Japanese cars seem to have crappy seatbelt designs that treat the slightest movement as a high G-force impact, locking the retractor and forcing you to completely unbuckle and rebuckle the belt to get any freedom of movement back. I've never had the problem in a domestic; even if the retractor locks, I just lean back a bit and it frees up quickly.

At least someone likes the original Malibu's wheel.

Another ugly Nissan 3-spoke. And the tampon glass in the roof is irritating. Still, not bad overall, especially since they did some dental work on the front. Yee-gods that tooth looked bad.

The Luxury Car for Those Who Don't Care About Cars.

Toyoguy, you make me smile. Don't like the center stack controls. Otherwise, a tepid refresh for an already handsome car.

For anyone going to or planning on attending the NYIAS, feel free to use this thread to coordinate your activities with one another. Show Dates: Press - April 12-13 Public - April 14-23

When it started out with bickering...yeah. That seals it.

I vote for this...

See? Wheels make a diff!

Exactly. The 'ancient' 4-speed Hydromatics shift smoother than Lexus 5/6-speeds.

Did you actually look at the Sonata interior? Damn, at least the GM's are ergonomic.

I think this is a result of photography. In any case, the old Camry didn't lean to the left...it was completely justified to the left and looked like pure garbage because of it.

Me, too. I'd rip it out and sell it. You'll never see authentic titanium in a car of any meaningful production at this price anytime soon. I don't think people realize how much that stuff costs.

The local Mitsubishi dealership is in a double-wide portable. They have to use Saturn's bathrooms. Even Suzuki has an actual facility.

Nice. A version of the Maxima's bloated ass. Thanks, Nissan.

'Automobile-Themed Restaurant'

You're very, very welcome. Going to add Variance and CSpec to that 'thank you' as well as Camino, whom I sought advice from.

2007 SATURN AURA PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS 2007 SATURN AURA Press Release Overview Models: Saturn Aura XE and XR Body style / driveline: sedan / front-engine, front-wheel drive Construction: body-frame integral EPA vehicle class: midsize car Manufacturing location: Fairfax Assembly Plant, Kansas City, Kan. Key competitors: Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat Engine Type: 3.5L V-6 OHV w/VVT 3.6L V-6 DOHC w/VVT Displacement (cu in / cc): 213 / 3490 217 / 3564 Bore & stroke (in / mm): 3.90 x 2.99 / 99 x 76 3.70 x 3.37 / 94 x 85.6 Block material: cast iron aluminum with cast-in bore liners Cylinder head material: aluminum aluminum Valvetrain: overhead valve; 2 valves per cylinder; variable valve timing DOHC; 4 valves per cylinder; variable valve timing Fuel delivery: sequential fuel injection sequential fuel injection Compression ratio: 9.8:1 10.2:1 Horsepower (hp / kw): 224 / 167 @ 5900 rpm* 252 / 188 @ 6300 rpm* Torque (lb-ft / Nm): 220 / 298 @ 4000 rpm* 251 / 340 @ 3200 rpm* Recommended fuel: 87 octane 87 octane Max. engine rpm (fuel cutoff): 6400 rpm 7000 rpm Emissions controls: dual close-coupled converters; returnless fuel rail; fast-response oxygen sensors dual close-coupled converters; returnless fuel rail, 2 pre- and 2 post- oxygen sensors Estimated fuel economy (city / hwy): 20 / 30 18 / 27 Transmission Manufacturer: GM Powertrain GM Powertrain Type: Hydra-Matic 4T45-E 4-speed automatic transmission Hydra-Matic 6T70 6-speed automatic transmission Gear Ratio (:1) First: 2.96 4.48 Second: 1.62 2.87 Third: 1.00 1.84 Fourth: 0.68 1.41 Fifth: -- 1.00 Sixth: -- 0.74 Reverse: 2.14 2.88 Final drive ratio: 3.05 2.77 Chassis/Suspension Front: MacPherson strut with aluminum L-shaped control arms; direct-acting stabilizer bar Rear: XE: Four-link independent with twin-tube gas shocks; dual-rate mini-block coil springs; direct-acting stabilizer bar. XR: Four-link independent with monotube shocks; dual-rate mini-block coil springs; direct-acting stabilizer bar. Steering type: hydraulic rack-and-pinion Steering ratio: 16.2:1 Steer wheel turns, lock-to-lock: 2.8 Turning circle, curb-to-curb (ft / m): 40.4 / 12.3 Brakes Type 4-wheel disc with 4-channel ABS Rotor diameter (in / mm): front: 11.65 / 296, ventilated rear: 10.63 / 270, solid Wheels/Tires Wheel size and type: 17-in fascia spoke steel with cover (std XE) 17-in chromed cover (opt XE) 17-in cast aluminum (opt XE) 18-in ultra-bright spun cast aluminum (std XR) Tire size and type: P225/50R17 touring blackwall (XE) P225/50R18 touring blackwall (XR) Dimensions Exterior Wheelbase (in / mm): 112.3 / 2852 Overall length (in / mm): 190.0 / 4851 Overall width (in / mm): 70.3 / 1786 Overall height (in / mm): 57.6 / 1464 Track Front (in / mm): 59.9 / 1523 Rear (in / mm): 60.3 / 1533 Curb weight (lb / kg): 3528.5 / 1600.5 (XE) 3647.1 / 1654.3 (XR) Interior Seating capacity (front / rear): 2 / 3 Headroom Front (in /mm): 39.4 / 1000 Rear (in / mm): 37.4 / 950 Legroom Front (in / mm): 42.2 / 1073 Rear (in / mm): 37.6 / 953 Shoulder room Front (in / mm): 55.9 / 1420 Rear (in / mm): 54.0 / 1371 Hip room Front (in / mm): 53.0 / 1345 Rear (in / mm): 52.2 / 1328 Cargo volume (cu ft / L): 15.7 / 444.6 Capacities Fuel tank (gal / L): 16.3 gallons Engine oil (qt / L): 4.0 / 3.8 (XE) 5.5 / 5.2 (XR) Cooling system (qt / L): 9.9 / 9.4 (XE) 9.9 / 9.4 (XR) Max towing capacity (lb / kg): 1000 / 453 *Pending SAE certification. A new voluntary power and torque certification procedure developed by the SAE Engine Test Code committee was approved March 31, 2005. This procedure (J2723) ensures fair, accurate ratings for horsepower and torque by allowing manufacturers to certify their engines through third-party witness testing. GM was the first auto manufacturer to begin using the procedure and expects to use it for all newly rated engines in the future.