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Coming from a Cobalt SS owner , I think they did a great job with this car . Smart move making the big spoiler optional ....about 1/2 of more SS/SC owners remove theirs and go spoiler less or run the little one . Its also humerous how so many said this car was too boy racer looking with the big wing . Now that the new cars out with a more subtle spoiler as the only body change from the old SS/SC , and with much more agressive lookign wheels , the car is suddenly plain and boring . Ive read that in alot of press from the same people that ousted the big wang . I wish Chevy woulda refreshed the Kia looking headlights though for a more modern projecter design . It alone would have went a long ways in freshening up the front end with the new grills .

They werent talking about a month to month goal of 3K . They were just talking about the 1st month of prduction while their ramping up I think they plan selling more than 36,000 a year .

And a amazingly wise move that would be . Theres quite a performace gap between the DI 3.6 and the LSA .

That is THEE most ignorant statement Ive heard all year , lol If Cadillac ever wants to acheive respected world status it wants , it will have to be a MUCH more versitle brand . BMW , Merc , Audi ect all have entry level cars starting in the 30's , dont see their reps or brand equity hurting too much do you . If they build this CUV right , it will be an asset to the brand , jmo :shrugs:

Those headlamps are wild . Is this the 1st application of full LED headlamps on anything ? Not sure if Lexus has done this with the LS460H or anyone else for that matter .

I stopped and at the dealer tonight and looked at one . It was a White LTZ with the Ebony/Brick red 2-tone interior . The Malibu looks better 10 fold in real life , even the rear end . I was pretty amazed too with the interior . The car as a whole looked pretty upscale . The Honda dealer is across the street , in contrast ....I still think the Honda looks like a large Hyundai . These arent my style of cars so I dont know how either of them drive , but looks wise .....back to back comparison , the Malibu imo is the better looking car . In and Out . To bad Chevy couldnt have whipped up a Parchment/Ebony interior accented with piano black and satin nickel trim . It would look incredible with the White and polished 18" wheels .

That should be corrected come NAIAS . The yellow car is not a production car . The development cars had the new grills , no clue why it was left off this one .

The LSD is NOT standard on the 08 . In 2007 it was a $750 option , should be the same money for 08 .

Rims were photoshopped . Heres the Actual car at Sema .

Maybe u meant to word it like that on purpose ? ...if not , OPC and VXr are the same thing . OPC goes to Opel in England and VXR is Vauxhall in the UK and Holden in AU .

I think in the flesh it will be a good looking car . All these photoshopped pics look like crap .

same thoughts exactly .

Nice raid on the OPC and SRi( groundFx) parts bins , too bad they forgot the HP . 160 is weaksauce batman . The color is sweet , the seat fabric however... is certainly not .

Is this car actually at Sema ? Or do we just get the horrible photoshopped 2 year old pic with the wrong wheels until the autoshow season ? To GM's defense , this car is only gonna be around for 1.5 years before this generation is dead . They could squeezed out some new modern headligths though . The Astra bi-xenons in mine dramatically altered its personality and makes the car look much more upscale .

GM media lists the LSD as being optional . And a lap time @ Nurburgring @ 8.22 seconds . wOOt , thats flying and in some very respectable company . For reference 8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99) 8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00) 8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98) 8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004) 8:22.38 147.617 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion") http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk 8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7 GT, 442 PS/1833 kg (sport auto 07/03) 8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 280 PS/1426 kg (sport auto 04/06) 8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 01/02) 8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, 360PS/1566kg (sport auto 04/05), 8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (sport auto 05/04) 8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Audi RS4, 375 PS/1675 kg (sport auto 10/00) 8:25* -- 146.851 km/h – 2007 BMW M5 Touring, 507 PS (*mfr.) 8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Corvette Callaway C12, 400 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 04/99) 8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Jaguar XKR, 416 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 11/06) 8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Maybach 57 S, 612 PS/2835 kg 8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 11/99) 8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (sport auto 11/02) 8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1412 kg (sport auto 11/06), 8:26 --- 146.561 km/h – BMW 335i Coupé, 306 PS/1610 kg (sport auto 10/06), 8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG, 354 PS/1480 kg (sport auto 05/01) 8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Nissan 350Z, 280 PS/1526 kg (sport auto 10/03) 8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- BMW E49 M5, 400PS/1833 kg (sport auto 03/99) 8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS 8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera 2, 285 PS/1452 kg (sport auto 01/98) 8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera Cabrio (sport auto 04/97) 8:28.1 - 145.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/ 8:28.93 145.690 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX sedan (1992) www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf 8:29 --- 145.697 km/h -- Audi S4 4.2 Avant, 344 PS/1826 kg (sport auto 11/03) 8:29 --- 145.697 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG, 347 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 05/00) 8:29 --- 145.697 km/h – MTM VW Golf V GTI, 272 PS/1437 kg (sport auto Tuning 07), 8:30 --- 145.412 km/h -- Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa, 320 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 10/02) 8:31.--- 145.130 km/h -- 2006 CADILLAC STS-V, 440PS/1948 kg, 8:31.42 145.008 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380hp (Top Gear magazine) 8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG (sport auto 04/03) 8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0si coupe, 265 PS/1408 kg (sport auto 08/06) 8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Lotus Exige, 192hp (sport auto 08/04) 8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW M Roadster, 321 PS/1410 kg (sport auto 09/97) 8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG, 231 PS/1396 kg (sport auto 05/03) 8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 252 PS/1386 kg (sport auto 12/99) 8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Volkswagen Golf R32 Mk. IV, 250 PS 8:33.80 144.336 km/h -- Honda NSX (6-speed) Coupe, 276 PS (Top Gear magazine

I keep telling myself I dont wanna trade my SS , but mechanically ....the 2008 is just gonna rock . And they fiiiiiiiinally arent white nazi's anymore . Why does GM insist on baaaad photoshops for their media images ...those wheels are GM accessory wheels that have been around since 2005 . The new ones are 7.5" wide , the rims in those pics are 7 . The pic also doesnt show the new mesh upper and lower grills . This should be the new rim . This rim style is also what comes up in GM dealer parts computer on the image breakdowns .

I have since went to the little spoiler , so your not crazy I got tired of seeing vinyl covering the holes and I wanted to wait until this winter when a small Z28 style lip spoiler will be fabbed in to fill the holes .....hence the low one for now . Looks like GM will have quite a presence this year at Sema . I hope the 50 cent G8 isnt modded like a playa 300c , it probably will be though .

Unless there was some secret hidden option for the spoiler delete , as stated above is how it worked . Here's mine sans spoiler , the 1st thing I did to mine was get rid of that park bench .

The rear 1/4's on the ZR1 are wider than the Z06 to accomodate the wider rubber .

The Turbo Cobalt coupe is a complete gimme . THe HHR SS has already made its public debut and production announcement at Woodward . Maybe just maybe might it have finally dawned on GM a 4-door SS Turbo would likely be a runaway success .

With comments from Lutz that the Camaro will be class leading , it will set new standards and will surprise alot of people ....I just cant see a old engine like the 3.5 going anywhere near the Camaro . Though obviously updated , this engine dates back to the days of the 2.8 v6 ( 2.8 to 3.1 to 3.4 to 3.5 ) grand am . Even the 3.9 only made 240 hp , the 3.5 would make the heavier than the elipson cars Camaro a super turd . Again man , jmo ....not negating nething your saying . Outside of fleet only ..the 3.5 makes an even worse business case for the Impala hyperv6 - haha , Scotts vauge 1 liners often speak volumes if u know how to interpret them As far as the auto show ...about the only safe assumption is there probably wont be a SS , Z28 ect ect badge or any parts closer to production than the original concepts . I hope they do come up with something special to upstage the production Challenger .

Scott said absolutely no production based Camaro on this year auto show circuit and would make no further comment , other than production based car is next years show . You may be right on a special Camaro "concept" On the v6 thing . The 3.6 is in everything now . IF in fact the DI 3.6 is optional , one would tend to think the base engine would be the base 3.6 .... the power outputs are scattered enuff . Just going off costs to engineer separate motor mounts between the 2 blocks would seem to make the base 3.6 a shoe in . Just an assumption ...fwiw .

I choose to keep it simple . Nothing more than a US Astra Redline . I used the GTC concept wheels , black chrome accents and tried to mimmick the new Kappa twins brazen orange color .

An option I rarely ever see choosen on the popular midsize cars . I hope that comment was sarcasm . Hell , when I worked at Audi/VW , even in the A4 ....Navi was rarely ever ordered . EDIT .......didnt see the post by u right above me

I have never been a wagon fan , but that is INSANELY cool . The wheels are gorgeous , as is the interior .