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2010 Camaro Mule in Production Body

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Here are some facts on the Camaro from F bodfather. These are facts you can take to the bank.

F bodfather Scott Settlmire speaks:

Finally -- a word about the recent blogs out there --

Yes-- the Camaro will have a key. (versus pushbutton start)

Yes -- it will be a model year 2010 -- but we have not moved the 'start-up' date. We'll start building Camaros in the 4th quarter of 2008 -- and they'll be in dealerships in the first quarter of 2009.

Yes - the new Camaro will have a B-pillar. BUT - it isn't noticable from the outside. Think of a first gen with the rear window in the up position. The rear window will cover the B-pillar and there will be a weatherstrip attached. The B-pillar is necessary for several reasons -- the most important being:

>reduction of mass

>structural rigidity

.....and, I think we're safe in saying this: The production car is so close to the concept -- that if we were driving down the road in a production Camaro coupe in Silver -- and you passed us going the other way -- you'd swear it was the Silver concept.

The Future just keeps getting brighter and brighter!

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Ed Well born showing some love to one of his children. This photo is on Fastlane blog of Ed hugging the 2010 Test mule in production sheetmetal. This is the same car Lutz drove and told us about.

Yes there will be 2 V6 engines the first year as well as 1 V8. 1 V6 is for the buget minded price buyer and the other is a economical performance car. Yes this second V6 will rival the last gens V8. The V8 is the LS3 [like it was a big seceret].

I spoke to Scott on the V6 and he said they found many buyers wanted a lower performing economical V6 just has the Mustang sells in great numbers. They find many of the Female drivers don't care for a lot of power and just was a good running sporty looking car. He said many are intimidated by high HP. [must not have spoken to my wife]. Agree or not this V6 formula is the biggest selling model for the Mustang and is what the 4th gen lacked.

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By the way these photo's are planned releases to counter the release of the Challanger pictures.

GM does not do thinks like this my accident! Note how well posed this photo was to cover some details. You have to leave them wanting more.

Expect more in the near future to counter any news on the Challanger.

The gates of info are just starting to open, so enjoy the ride.

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B-pillar of any sort = :(

You want to SCCA race your 2010 Camaro Z/28?

Put in a f@#kin' rollcage. <_<

You want a cheap assed 2dr post Musclecar? Buy a $hitty Mustang. :mellow:

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B-pillar of any sort = :(

You want to SCCA race your 2010 Camaro Z/28?

Put in a f@#kin' rollcage. <_<

You want a cheap assed 2dr post Musclecar? Buy a $hitty Mustang. :mellow:

Has nothing to do with racing.

It has more to do with the Ralph Nadar type lawyers of the world.

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This is going to be one hot mother f*c*er. I can see the instrument cluster nacelles... it appears to have something near the concept's interior, as well. Hold onto your hats! :)
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B-pillar of any sort = :(

You want to SCCA race your 2010 Camaro Z/28?

Put in a f@#kin' rollcage. <_<

You want a cheap assed 2dr post Musclecar? Buy a $hitty Mustang. :mellow:

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Contrary to what some have posted in other threads this car is going to be as close to the concept as the Solstice was to it's concept. Unless they are side by side only some small differances will show.

Keep an eye out for post from Scott as he is giving some info now and what ever he says is good as gold.

I still think we may see a preproduction bodied car with some custom tricks at Detroit. I have heard nothing offical but I can't see them not giving us a teaser. That is not like GM to pass it up with only the Impala.

Note the starting date is still late 08 and Scott told me a few weeks back we should be good yet to see the car in dealers by Feb 09 baring any future delays. The earlier post of production starting in Feb 09 were bogus.

By the way your B pillar will be something like this. The Bumble Bee Camaro is a good indicator of what to expect.

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Here are some facts on the Camaro from F bodfather. These are facts you can take to the bank.

F bodfather Scott Settlmire speaks:

.....and, I think we're safe in saying this: The production car is so close to the concept -- that if we were driving down the road in a production Camaro coupe in Silver -- and you passed us going the other way -- you'd swear it was the Silver

Ask Scott if the bumpers will change, if the roof will raise, and if the concept Camaro had room for functional front suspension....

:AH-HA_wink:

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those mirrors grew....alot.

Well, now you can actually SEE something in it, thus making them useful.

Will the Camaro be tested at The Ring, or will it be tested in the land of Oz?

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I'm still upset about the lack of a midline V8, but if that V6 is as great as they say, then I suppose I could stand to lose two cylinders. :)

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Hi-po V6 Camaro sounds intriguing... that's definitely good planning, considering the price of gas these days. It makes the Camaro more of a broad-appeal modern performance car than purely a muscle car (Challenger). The current 3.6 DI makes 304 hp; retuning it for more revs and more power would easily make it competitive with a 335i or G37. Except the Camaro will be a lot better looking...

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Hi-po V6 Camaro sounds intriguing... that's definitely good planning, considering the price of gas these days. It makes the Camaro more of a broad-appeal modern performance car than purely a muscle car (Challenger).

Challenger will have V6 models too. As does the Mustang.

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Challenger will have V6 models too. As does the Mustang.

Neither are what I would term Hi perfromance.

The numbers I was told are north of 300 HP for the higher V6. At one time I heard 320 HP may be possible. Neither the Challanger or Mustang offer anything like that.

Good gas mileage, lower price, lower insurance and maybe lower weight? will make this a appealing option to those who can afford the V8. Also it make for a good daily driver.

Keep in mind folks how much power the Grand National made was below what we are expecting for this optional package. It looks like the middle ground Camaro will be as good as the last SS was.

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Ask Scott if the bumpers will change, if the roof will raise, and if the concept Camaro had room for functional front suspension....

:AH-HA_wink:

Look at the picture and you have your roof answer already.

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Challenger will have V6 models too. As does the Mustang.

Yeah, but it sounds like this V6 is looking to tie or exceed the Mustang's 4.6L V8. Hell, maybe it'll be out hunting the HEMI 5.7L . 8)

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Hi-po V6 Camaro sounds intriguing... that's definitely good planning, considering the price of gas these days. It makes the Camaro more of a broad-appeal modern performance car than purely a muscle car (Challenger). The current 3.6 DI makes 304 hp; retuning it for more revs and more power would easily make it competitive with a 335i or G37. Except the Camaro will be a lot better looking...

This thing should be about 200-250lb lighter than the Zeta G8 (smaller body). It should weigh around 3600-3700lb. With that Hi-Po V-6, it can kick some serious butt. GM can make very good handling cars, so yes I expect to see it at the Ring. I still think, they should have that 4.5l V-8 315hp+ Du-Di in it as an option. That will blow serious balls out.

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Neither are what I would term Hi perfromance.

The numbers I was told are north of 300 HP for the higher V6. At one time I heard 320 HP may be possible. Neither the Challanger or Mustang offer anything like that.

The Challenger doesn't offer anything. It isn't out yet..?

The Challenger is slated to get the 4.0 V6 Phoenix engine. Have you read up on it? No slouch by any means....

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Look at the picture and you have your roof answer already.

LOL

I looked up, either that guy is a midget or indeed the car is taller now! Looks like shoulder height almost...

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Keep in mind folks how much power the Grand National made was below what we are expecting for this optional package. It looks like the middle ground Camaro will be as good as the last SS was.

but remember the ('87) GN made .. say 250 hp... but "more" than 300 ft lbs....that makes some nice HP lower in the range.

the gnx was "rated" at "276 hp (206 kW) and a very substantial 360 lb-ft (488 N·m) of torque"-wikipedia

the hi-po v6, i bet, will come close to the last SS, it'd be sad if it did though.. for the 4th gen.

what would everyone think of a turbo camaro? would a twinforce mustang happen to counter said camaro?

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Why does Ed Wellburn get to have sex with the Camaro before I do? :hissyfit:

He's nowhere near the tailpipe if that floats your boat. :P

I love those wheels! I hope to see a pic of the whole car soon.

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