A Horse With No Name

Loved that Vido also, 'blu. Once I had a guy offer to trade me even up an Airflow in beautiful shape for my 66 Mustang 4 speed fastback. Still think about that car...love the Airflow.... On another note, saw a 50th anniversary Camry hybrid the other day. Balthazar better get busy...we've got a missing 47 years of Camry hybrid production that no one seems to know about. Wonder if those "missing" 47 years of Camry are in the Toyota display? Or maybe Camino will buy 83 Cresida's 83 Cresida and build a hybrid Toyota "phantom" as that phantom he's been wanting to build. (stang ducks from flying wrench....) Chris

Damn Straight, skippy. My washing machine is 14 years old and starting to rust. It still looks better than a new Civic. Chris

...Would be nice if the two civics were a visual improvement over the wagon. That wagon still looks better than ANY new Acura product. Chris

Look in thbose twin 4V carbs...you might find a Honda sucked into one of them....

...and another thing Pudue Guy and I would prob. agree on: Older Saturns make great cheapo Autocross cars. On the local or regional level they compete very well in H stock. I always laugh when I see a $1200 Saturn in primer hand the owner of a $30,000 MINI his ass on a platter. GM chasis engeneers have gotten a lot of cars dead right, and it's not just the CTS, Camaro and Corvette.

It's dead stock. I'm trying to save $ for a Solstice, which is much faster. Chris

Love that Z, Cletus! Chris

...and while I'm off topic, methinks I'm going to do this school with my 16 year old son. http://www.midohio.com/School/Courses/Defensive-Driving/1 It's kind of funny to watch, they have a civic set up with outriggers so it can't roll over. They then wet down the skid pad and put teens through a set of defensive driving drills. It's a pretty good deal also. they probably have something like this out near you, mr balthazar. I would guess your son would enjoy that. Chris

...and you may want to try this in New Jersey when you get the B-59 done. Autocrossing is also a great way to teach a teen car control. Also, IIRC balthazar, one of your sons is 15. Tire Rack, which is now obviously a C and G sponsor, has a teen safe driving school that costs 60 bucks for a day. But they do some cool things. they let a real SCCA or NASA race driver ride with the teen, set up a basic Auto-X course, and teach the teens one on one what to do when the car starts to get upset/slide/whatever. They also bring out a semi-truck and park cars around it, so the teens are aware of just how little a semi driver sees from the cab. Also, they detonate an air bag to show what happens when one goes off. last year they sent a purple stuffed Barney 60 feet into the air with one. They also wet down the parking lot with a fire hose and let the teens experience a car sliding in a con trolled setting. The only downside is that a few of the teens had so much fun with this that a few of the parents bought a few tires. It's done in conjunction with the BMW car club. Linky here. http://www.tirerack.com/features/motorspor...et_survival.jsp Chris

No...to both questions. See my pics of the Pontiac in the Car spotters thread. Also...check out the Power Oversteer on the C6 Z06 in the car spotters thread as well. It's fun to run for a quick time, but also fun to slide the ass end of the car around and just go out to play. Chris

Glad to see them selling them. I really don't like the styling on the CR-V. Chris

Wow...someone that needs to go away looks like they will. Tell me why these guys are trying to sell cars in North America? Chris

As a fan of white...WOW...I think I'm in love... Chris

If anyone is ever in columbus...bring that Z28, Fiero, HHR SS, Trans Am, formula, Corvette, and come play! Would love to have any one of you guys come join us in some fun. Chris

...and while I'm posting pics...one more "Oh $h!" moment....

You and I are pretty close in our rankings. Mine Changes from time to time...but I think you pretty much nailed it. Chris

Since I'm being a photo whore, one more pic: Amazing how dark metallic blue makes anything look good, from a new Challenger to a 55 Chevy to a 70 chevelle to a Cutty to this. I just love dark blue cars.

This is Duke's car: He can really drive that thing. Believe it or not, that car corners so well that sometimes it goes around the cones on three wheels! That car is a lot of fun to watch... Chris

Oh, and GM did Porsche one better. In a 911, it's called "lift throttle oversteer" In a Z06, it's called "full throttle oversteer"

The ZO6 I was telling you guys about at our local Autocross: That's actually me if you look behind the Z06...I'm the idiot with a camera in my hand... Chris

Oh, and Dodgefan, here is the Z car I was telling you about... Chris

I thought I'd break the car too until I tried it. It will help your driving skills more than you can imagine. Glad someone else here thinks the VW feels a little heavy. The astra is just right, and the MINI just wants to play. But the VW GTI wants to grow up and become a fullsize German luxury car. And it shows. All FWD cars tend to understeer a little bit, but in stock form the GTI will plow like a John Deere if you autocross it. Astra, MINI and Cobalt SS are all MUCH more responsive IMHO. Chris

True. But not much higher than the Civic, etc. Still wish this car had sold well here. Chris

Can't get into the Accord coupe for some odd reason. I think Oldsmoboi likes them as do several others here. Paulino, what is your pecking order for the midsizers? Chris

...and as for the perverse import dealers, I was looking at the linup of 65+++ cars at Toyota West here in Columbus when a Mechanic who was out walking the line had a suggestion. He suggested that they should parcel the money out to so many rebates per dealer. He said that way the domestics would get their fair share. Thought it was a good idea. Chris