A Horse With No Name

I agree on the vintage car thing. Although I wouldn't mind seeing MODERN muscle cars used in chase scenes. Chris

After my grandmother died, my grandfather dated a woman that had a full sized (about 1970) Buick convertible. My grandfather bought a matching car (actually hers was gold and my grandfathers was yellow, IIRC) Some of the happiest moments of my boyhood were spent cruising around in those cars. NOTHING beats a ragtop. Chris

You have entered the Matrix, and Sixty Eights brain is out for reprograming. He will be back spitting up jell-o on himself and driving a Camry shortly. Seriously, a family I knew that I used to park my 66 Stang' next to at car shows had a 51 Dodge. They took a lot of crap from some family members for letting their grandchildren ride in such an old an obivously "unsafe" car. People just kill me with their stupidity. Chris

I'm a huge convertible fan. I not only get rid of B pillars, I get rid of C pillars too! Chris

Okay, Boys, I've got a major leage stupid question...has ANYONE got any real world cost data on what a B-pillarless car would cost to make? I'm thinking about getting a used RX-8 (going in halves to buy the car with my son). The car has rear suicide doors and essentially NO structure around the passenger compartment other than doors...and yet it passes side crash test safety just fine. If Mazda, one of my fav. carmakers but a tier 2 Japanese make at best (and part owned by Ford) can do this with a sub 30K car, why can't we have a B-pillarless Camaro? Chris

Damn, Sylvester, you and I might not always agree on everything, but that is a fine looking Benz! (Enter sarcsm mode) Now just step away from the car. The safety Nazi's are coming to take you away, and mAssachusetts childrens protective services will be taking Sophia because you let her ride in an obviously unsafe car. (Exit sarcasm mode) Chris

Exactly. Why can Harley Davidson make motorcycles that are a million times more likely to kill you if you are hit in the side? Chris

Bingo! Chris

For those of us with families to take care of here, there is almost nowhere to run away to and "hide" Chris

You might read the book "generation debt." Things are going to really suck for your generation, DF.

...and I'd love to live out west if I could afford it. Housing is high, and I have 5 children sooo... Chris

It's nice and green here, but the economy sucks. I am right now debating the merits of relocating, although I love where I live. Where are you from? My Wife has family in Holmes County, near the Amish. Chris

So much for all FWD cars sucking. GM is onto something good... Chris

...as a guy who would like to live in podunk, Ohio...I sadly agree. Chris

Hopefully they are still selling over 100,000 per year in about 5 years. That will be the acid test. Chris

We need to build things here. Another big waste is that everything we get from China is crap. China is only efficient at filling U.S. landfills. Chris

+1 Chris

Get the best one you can buy, repairing them is expensive. But this car IS on my list of cars I would like to own. Chris

I would agree. Chris

+1 Chris

I thought about this, and most of us that have driven the car and liked it have driven the manual. I bet the auto isn't so slick, and is turning buyers off. That and the interior is indeed a little dark...but I actually liked that about the car. Chris

It would be a damn fine thing if we could do it. The problem is that only a very small part of the buying public cares. I would guess if you rounded up all of the people in North America that were really upset about the B-pillar in the Camaro and such they would probably fill a pretty good sized church...and that's a fraction of buyers that GM, Ford, and chrysler will all round down to Zero. Carnuts buy only a VERY SMALL minority of cars sold. But if your serious, I am serious. but since on this car thread no one else has bothered to respond, all I can say is... I have two sawzalls at the house. Which would you prefer, my Porter Cable 120v plug in or my 18v. Dewalt? Chris

By the way, Dodgefan, I was out walking with my sons and wife the other night in our neighborhood and discovered a pristine SRT-4 about 4 blocks from where I live. I thought about you when I saw that thing, because this thing looks like it has babied. Chris

I wonder how one of these would work for my 18 year old daughter. I need to get her something autotrajic and indestructable. This may just do the trick! Chris

Actually the 190 is one Benz I'd buy....