A Horse With No Name

Again, one of those guys at work thing but... I would have to agree. Tom, whom I work with bought one for his wife. It is a very unique car in the ways that you describe it. Also have seen it have some success at auto-X and SCCA style road racing. +1 esp on the engeneering part. Chris

I take it you won't be voting "democrat" in November then... Chris

Ditto on the SSR and Riviera. One of the guys at my former place of work had a pristine Riviera of that generation and managed to total it driving drunk. Some people should just not be allowed to own cool cars. Chris

What are some cars of the last 25-30 years that nobody in their right mind wants, but were unique-special-a creative half assed attempt for their time? Or are way over rated by their fan base? Triumph TR-7 3rd gen Mazda RX-7 (first two gen's were cool but third gen cars are fragile on a good day) Sterling Anything built by the French Anything built by the Koreans Damn near anything built by Fiat All of the itinerations of the GTI Volkswagen between the first gen and current gen (first and current gen are decent cars, but what came in between is about like a cow patty sandwich) Porsche 924 Porsche 914 1980-81 Turbo Trans Am Firebird Delorean Chryler Lebaron Convertible (I know a guy who restores them, they were basically worthless new) What am I missing here? What else should be on the list? Chris

Eliminating exotics like the Ferrari Enzo and our favorite muscle cars (Camaro, Firebird, Challenger, Vette, Viper, GTO, et al) as well as trucks and SUV's (Cyclone, Wrangler 4 door etc.) what cars of the last ten or 15 years do you consider creative and unique? My list Miata (I like the first two generations better than the current gen, but the current gen is still a fine car) CTS (Current and previous generation) RX-8 (Rotary power) Audi TT (the first gen had better styling I thought) Solstice Sky Boxter perhaps? (mid-motor) Malibu Maxx (streched family sedan, a good idea I thought) Volvo C-30 (cool rebirth of a neo sports car from Volvo, really kind of like the interior, seems very "Scandanavian in design somehow) Buick Reatta (a little old for the list but one of the guys at work has one and its wayy cool) Mini Cooper S Cadillac Allante What obvious cars am I missing? Chris

Guy is a Mo-Ron. Chris

That Aqua and white B-59 is awesome!

Thanks for the pics guys. That's a nice vintage shot of a Pontiac Dealership in Sixty-Eights p[ost also. Would love to have bought a production version of the 54 wildcat. There is just something about 50's cars. Chris

Although the best looking car in the segment is by far the Buick Crossover... The Ford Freestyle seems to be a pretty decent design as well. But enzl is right, people will flock to the new Pilot like flys to feces. One of the guys at work (one of the die hard buy domestic ones, too) just traded his Trailblazer for a current gen Pilot. Listening to Josh, you'd believe his Honda was Jesus incarnate returning to earth in four wheeled form. Chris

Oh, and someone yesterday told me about a 68 fairlane GT with a 396 and factory tri-power and a powerglide that he once owned. Nice that we live on a planet that allows cars from the twilight zone. Chris

At the library I go to there is a 96 Mustang GT with flames painted with brush and roller. I kid you not. Chris

The youth culture was brought up, that is a HUGE part of the problem also. When kids play Grand Theft Auto and kill people at random on the video games and live in a culture of violence... Chris

I would agree. LiLO might pull it together but GW is God's own original Dumbass. Chris

Would be nice if MFG. had more control of dealers. Most of my local GM dealers are not people I'd buy a car from. You have my sympathy. Chris

Sweet car, I love it! Chris

It's a case of hemmeroids I wouldn't mind having. Or, given that it's a MOPAR, shouldn't it be Hemi-roids? Chris

Just read an article in Automobile Quarterly about buick buying a model "C" which was the 4th oldest known buick in the world at the time. The article stated that the sloan foundation had made a model "B" out of a model C but that the model B was extinct as far as anyone knew at the time. I think the article came out about 1994 or so. Does anyone here know if anyone ever found a model B buick from 1904? Also, does anyone here have any good mlinks to info on Buicks of the brass era? Chris

My friend Joyhn replaced his 35 year old American made fridge with a chinese made fridge...which lasted two years.... Chinese made stuff is the sh!t...literally. chris

Ditto on the manual in an S thing. I can sympathize with what Carbiz says about 98% of the population wanting automatics, but I wouldn't even want a CTS in an automatic. Chris

I could think of several creative uses for the Nuke though.... Chris

The counter arguement could be made also. There are a jillion people bearing arms in Packistan and Afghanistan, crime is obscenely common, and more guns won't change things. But I believe in the right to bear arms and like sixty eight said, from my cold dead hands. Chris

Let's see, I'm strait and a huge fan of Both Miata's and Mini's, and I don't know of any gay people that drive either. I like poetry also, though so my opinion may not count. Around here in the Lamda car club it seems to be big old domestics with lots of Chrome from the 50's or 60's. Newer cars seem to be all domestic, usually PT Cruiser or HHR for lesbians and large Buick/Cadillac type vehicles for males. For whatever reason the gay population of Columbus Ohio seems to be really, really domestic loyal. Actually, now that JPgolden got rid of the civic SI and got a truck, I don't know of any gay males that drive imports. Oh, yeah, wait, golden's partner drives a subie. Chris

I had a good friend who was a railroad engeneer who hit a woman in a volkswagen with a frieght train and killed her at a crossing. Not his fault but twenty years later he still had nightmares. I still have a problem with car fires because I saw a Formula Ford burn During an SCCA race, although the driver did make it out... Chris

Personally I hate leases, but I think this is a brilliant idea. With the economy in the crapper, lot of people will be looking for cheap wheels. Someone at Gm needs to look into this. Chris

Personally even if it did work out from a fuel economy standard, it would be a pr disaster. Better to upgrade/update the AVEO and use it there. Chris