Camino LS6

Product first - names later.

I'd put this in the unlikely column, however, not as quickly as I would have in the past. This time I can see a few reasons why it could happen. - Competitors dancing around with a mid-engine layout. - Ford did the GT - Most importantly, Caddy may be pushing for it to make a business case for a Cien/Sixteen. - Imagine the marketing opportunities in debuting a Cien for GMs 100th. It would be one hell of a roll of the dice for the Corvette brand though, and I'm not so sure it's worth it. I like Z's idea of sharing this platform between Caddy and Pontiac - might be the better route to go. Corvette is so right just as it is, why mess with success? But then, that Vette/Cien chop does look natural. Decisions, decisions.

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Mostly the older ones (that bodystyle). They seemed to rust very quickly.

I like the idea of trying to get enough C&G folks to go to the show to get a club area. This event is tailor -made for C&G and I think it should be our annual gathering . Maybe we can toss the ideas around through the Winter so we have our act together for next year.

Great pics! Glad you didn't get caught in that wreck - I was starting to wonder when I didn't hear from you. I agree that the non-Chevy owners need to get their butts out there for this show. And I like the idea of a C&G club registration next year.

I see a great future for this type of Pontiac built by HSV. Rotate the product that gets the "treatment" often and you build a new rep for Pontiac. EDIT: I also think that HSV's practice of changing the name of the car their models are based on should be continued with any HSV Pontiac.

GXP has to be much more available and inexpensive and a regular production engine. LS7 works because it is about to be an orphan engine which is the ideal time for a limited run of cars. HSV is taking advantage of that to build the beast. These cars will be upgraded in other ways as well as a whole package - essentially a tuner version not possible on the regular line. So I'm saying strike while the iron is hot. Don't think of it as "using" the LS7 so much as "using" the existence of the HSV to get a few top dog Pontiacs.

Northie, I'm thinking way past the GXP version with this one. This should be the Zo6 of Pontiacs with the GXP being a standard Vette. HSV can only build a few per year anyway. Also, these cars will be built so why not let a few out the door in Pontiac trim?

I have seen lots of rusty Ford F-series - especially the bumpers and tailgates.

Haven't noticed here. I used to see rusty cars all the time, but not in recent years.

If they decide to do a Saturn- style side by side, I may never leave my Pontiac dealer.

One look and I'd buy the Pontiac, not the Caddy. They have a very different appeal and audience. This Pontiac should start around 45k and stop short of 50k. Also, cross-shopping with BMW isn't really required though outperforming them for about 50% of the money is.

Too bad, I would have loved to see it.

In Australian racing Holden regularly trounces BMW. Pontiac needs some of that!

It would be exclusive and low-production by necessity. So, no decontenting allowed. This should be the no compromises product at the very top of the Pontiac portfolio. Call it a shot across the bow of BMW. It needs to be done because it can be done. To borrow a Ford catch phrase, Pontiac needs a "bold move" and this , quite plainly, should be it.

Make this the halo car and the names won't matter. http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...mp;#entry294424

If Pontiac wants to be seen as the American BMW, this is the secret weapon! Bring it!

After having the Duramax, a diesel from GM no longer scares me.

Very cool ad! Love to see the missing generations added in too.

A tough time without doubt. All the best to both of you.

Add a few sportwagons to the mix and we mostly agree. We part company on the naming strategy (somewhat). Otherwise,

Good read.

M5? What M5?

I'm with both of you.