Robert Hall

Yeah, but I never bought into the 'winter beater' idea..I like one reliable vehicle for year round use. Though my sister has gone the winter beater route sort of with her STS.

I glad I do have a decent amount sidewall w/ the 20 inch tires, but I still dodge the potholes..don't want to foul my alignment...

heh-heh..yeah. I saw rusted, battered yellow H2 the other day.

An early EV off-roader...

Oh yeah...and it leads to so many potholes..the streets outside my subdivision are pretty cratered...

Meh..just a truck w/ lift up bed topper...I'm talking integrated lines, a normal car-like decklid. Yes...fun to let the mind wander on topics like this..

Well, for mid-engined, they could do an NSX crossover coupe w/ a pickup bed..that would be rad... likewise, maybe Chevy can do a pickup version of the C8...

Could be...we have salt mines under Lake Erie...road salt is a big thing here.

But with an actual integrated decklid..

Salt...probably got that in PA also...

Yes, but those look like raised cars, like the original Eagle sedan. The future needs crossover sedans that have tall CUV bodies w/ trunks. Picture a X6 or GLE 'coupe' with a more squared rear and decklid.

What is it with 4th gen Chrysler minivans and hood rust? Everything 4th gen I see around here had rust holes or blotches at the leading edge of the hood...

Yes, it was as ugly as the 2nd gen Durango.. To get something out quickly, they could just add a bed to the ProMaster cab and chassis version. That would give them the only cab-forward pickup in the US market..

The Cleveland Museum of History has a couple of vintage EVs, both Bakers IIRC... There was a recreation of a 1901 Lohner-Porsche also, Porsche showed it off at the intro of the Panamera Hybrid a couple years ago. Maybe they will bring it out for the Taycan launch.

Well, then they can just lower the rear body and add a decklid, make a crossover sedan, responding to market forces.

Sales must of fallen off w/ the 3rd gen..I never see them around, either here or in Arizona...still see a rusty 2nd gen around here once in a while.

Saw an article on Japlopnik today about there being almost a record high # of unsold new vehicles.

Out running errands at lunch, saw a black Grand Cherokee SRT at my groomers, and across the street in an empty funeral home parking lot was a new black Rolls Royce Silver Ghost. The funeral biz must be booming in Ukranian Village (neighborhood in Parma, Oh).

A sunny Monday morning in suburbia.....went out for coffee and a bagel, saw an eclectic mix of cars out and about. On the road saw 4 very clean examples of late GM V8 sports sedans---a black STS-V, a silver 2nd gen CTS-V, a dark gray G8 GXP, and a blue Chevy SS...love 'em all. Came out of the coffee shop, and it was like a Lexus showroom---2 nearly identical metallic red NXs, a hulking black LX, a slick dark gray new generation LS, and a gorgeous bright blue LC...that is one car that looks much better in person than in photos, IMO...the Lexus ragey mouth front end works on it, IMO. On the road heading home saw a brown w/ tan top '70s-80s Fiat 124 Spyder--haven't one of those in ages---a gray Nissan GT-R, a gorgeous black CT6 (parked in the lot of a funeral home--so many funeral homes around here), and a sharp white last gen Regal GS. Also an orange w/ black hood Challenger Hellcat and a gorgeous dark red Grand Cherokee SRT. And for something completely different, at my local independent auto repair shop, there was a Caterpillar tanker truck...never realized there were Cat-branded trucks (red cab w/ a big "CAT' logo in the grille). Speaking of Caterpillar, went by a huge dealer/shop with signs for 'Ohio Cat' with a shovel and earth mover out front by a fountain..I guess the local Caterpillar dealer..never noticed it before.

Coming out of the casino this evening saw some interesting cars lined up in the valet lines--a matte graphite current-gen Mercedes SL, a clean black early 90s Porsche 911 (964) cabrio, a sharp dark red C7 coupe, and a clean white '89-ish IROC Z convertible w/ red stripes (saw the same car there last year).

It's funny, winter and salty roads have been over a few weeks now, but I did see a filthy, salty dented Tesla Model S the other day, just another winter beater w/ curbed rims, cracks in the fascias...

Rainy and foggy so far this May....Friday was particularly gloomy and foggy/rainy...saw a white C7 convertible (top up) out in the gloom. This morning saw a dark red '19 Camaro SS at the grocery, still had a window sticker and temporary tag, yet the rear bumper was cracked and scuffed.

That's cool...my coworker in Scottsdale that is into camping and off roading goes to that event every year. He's the Land Cruiser fan, has a restored '70s FJ 40 and an '86 FJ 60 resto mod w/ a GM LS e-rod engine and 6spd automatic.

GTIs also appeal to older enthusiasts as well... a buddy of mine in Denver after 20+ years of Jettas, just bought a Golf R. he's 52. He and his wife have a Q7 for family hauler duty also.

30s Ford hot rods aren't really in my area of interest, but found this photo quite striking.. I like this Packard..