Robert Hall

I'm glad my Jeep has a full size spare in the trunk floor. I've changed flats myself a couple of times (at home), other times had to call AAA (the lug nuts were on so tight I couldn't get them off with the lousy tiny factory lug wrench).

There is also the Taurus X.

Definitely...the greenhouse reminds me of the current 6 and the front fenders remind me of the new 6. The rear is almost Audi-like in profile, better than the current Euro Accord which has a flat, nearly completely vertical rear..

Yes, the front of the next gen TSX will probably resemble this...

The front overhang doesn't look bad, better than some of GMs...it's a pretty slick looking wagon, kind of Mazdaish.

Agreed...it seems reg is bored and trying to stir up trouble. It's a pointless argument, since given their worldwide success, Toyota is obviously doing many things right... the same argument of many overlapping models could be easily leveled at GM...it's not as bad as it used to be when C-P-O-B had a lookalike generic model of almost every FWD platform, but the various brands still have some overlap.

The Lucerne isn't bad, but the LaCrosse is just another dull GM rental car and has warmed over Taurus styling.

Yes...the mainstream family sedan is the biggest market segment..something like 2 million cars a year....Camry, Accord, Fusion, Malibu, etc.. Never underestimate how many people are content with vanilla.

I can't tell if you are being facetious or delusional.

Hmmm...interesting. A blending of parts of Theta and Epsilon, I presume?

'TE' ?

So after going from 7 models to 3 in about 3 years they are doing better...hmm.

I can't see any scenario that would result in my buying a Hyundai or Kia. Possibly a Honda, Acura or Infiniti, but other current Asian, not too likely. The complexity and reliability issues make German cars less likely for me to buy again...I love BMWs for their driving feel, but the price/complexity/reliability factors are getting hard to justify to myself. I'm thinking GM or Ford for my next purchase, possibility another Jeep...

I couldn't imagine someone 'proud' to own a Hyundai, unless they moved up from a Kia or old Yugo.

Mmmmmm....pointy.

I could see a Saab 9-7x replacement coming from this platform...a Cadillac SRX replacement, maybe, but less probable given the FWD origin of the platform.

Yeah, my birthday is right smack in the middle of the year, so the first half of the year, I was 6...

Grand Vitara?

She's cute..kinda has an Eva Longoria thing going on..

My brother used to work in auto sales in the '70s and '90s...Ford, VW, Mazda, Jeep, Pontiac.. I can't recall from talking with him, but how are people paid in auto sales--a base + some amount of commission on each sale?

I was only 7 in '77...but I do remember 'Dust in the Wind'... not really familiar with other Kansas music--nor with the state--though it borders Colorado, I've never been in the eastern part of the state or in Kansas...no big pointys, the plains are too plain.. Having grown up around two Baby Boomer siblings, (born in 1949 and 1957) I developed a taste for '70s music early, though...there is a LOT of music from that decade that I love. At the top for me is Pink Floyd and The Who, Led Zeppelin, Eric Clapton, and The Rolling Stones...along with Rush, Queen, Bruce Springsteen, Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles, AC/DC, and many others..... (I had a few beers w/ dinner so I'm getting loquacious, please ignore my rambling...) --Moltar aka Rob aka Cubical aka H-Cube. Born in '70, teen of the '80s, rushing forward through the '00s...

I don't think it's quite that serious...dozens died from the Pinto problems..

With Chevy being the volume GM brand, I'm surprised they didn't get one first, before the other 3.

and Chips

No V6/manual sedan?? Blech.