Robert Hall

Isn't the 4.7 used just in the Grand Cherokee? I didn't think the Ram, etc used it since the Hemi came out..

Whatever...the LS1 is a corporate engine. The GTO has the Pontiac badge, was registered as a Pontiac, and thus, is a Pontiac. It's not 1970 when each division had their own powertrains..

Speaking of Audi, it looks like they are getting back into the subcompact market with the A1 and S1.. Audi A1/S1

The cheap runty end of the market would be a depressing place to be. I think if my budget was that limited I'd get a larger late model used car than a new death-on-wheels econobox...

'350'? The GTO used a 5.7 and a 6.0 GM V8..they haven't used cubic inch designations like '350' in decades... But the GTO/Monaro was badged as a Chevy Lumina in some markets. However, it's not a rebadge of a US market Chevy the way the G5 is a rebadge of the Coblat.

That's probably how the next Pontiac Wave will look... They could also do one a waterfall grille with chrome bars for the Buick version, one with a large chromed eggcrate grille and vertical headlights for the Caddy ATS, and a butch one with a slotted vertical grille, bulging fenders, and big tires for the Hummer H6...

I wonder if the US will get this dopey restyle..

Bigger..that first link in the thread (Auto Report) had just one tiny head on pic.

More pics on Global Auto Index. Chevy Aveo

I saw a black '79 AMC Spirt AMX today..very clean condition. Didn't have a camera w/ me.

Mmmmmm...'72 Riv...drool. If I had to pick a favorite Buick, it would have to be the boattails..what a design.

Dillon Aero GMC w/ Gatling Gun (YouTube video on John C. Dvorak's blog).

It's just a blingy truck..nothing special.

68, can you stop harping about B-pillars? You've ranted about this wierd fixation of yours for months, years. If you don't have anything meaningful to contribute to a thread, please don't.

I saw a Cobalt coupe this morning that didn't have the gold bowtie on the deckid, but instead, C O B A L T spelled out across the decklid in chrome letters. Interesting..haven't seen one like that.

There is definitely an appeal to that...my folks bought their place (we called it the farm but we didn't raise anything) as an early retirement place... big classic Amish bank barn with room for 10-15 cars (between myself, my brother and my folks, in the '80s-90s we had a Winnebago, tractor, and 10-12 cars...loads of room to tinker. At one time we had 3 homes--a house in Steubenville, Oh (about an hour away), the 'farm', and a house in Florida (where we spent the school year when I was in jnr high/high school). I love traveling, in the US and abroad, and ultimately I see myself having two homes...a primarly place in the suburbs of a large metro area and a weekend getaway place in the mountains..some place an hr away or so. I've been in Colorado for 10 years now, and have been thinking a lot lately about staying here or moving somewhere else.. trying to decide careerwise what I want to be doing the next decade or so (I'm getting closer to 40).

I doubt if it was ever officially imported..probably some footballers bought them for the bling factor....that POS is out of place anywhere except a war zone (and it's not very good there either).

I don't go to junkyards, so it doesn't bother me... I learned long ago it's not healthy to get too sentimental about material things, though I can get sentimental about people and places, times in my life. I enjoy a car while I own it, then trade it for something newer and better and move on...

Having lived rural (Amish country of Ohio) for a large portion of my childhood, it's not all that it's cracked up to be. The negatives far outweigh the positives for me. Pretty scenery, lots of open space...but you are always at war with the weather...dealing with brutal cold, deep snows, power going out, etc. I remember lots of mud also (the lousy weather in Ohio). The isolation works against you--it's a long drive to basic things like hospitals, groceries, etc...and little things like appliance repair, etc is a pain because of the distance. Culturally, it's pretty dull...and the people often tend to be pretty conservative, people I don't like being around.. For the good six-figure jobs and amenities (bookstores, restaurants, etc), I need to be in a large metro area.

The Escalade is an obese pig, it belongs on there...the Veyron is an obese novelty..so few of them, it barely matters. Odd to see the M3 on that list.

That's how my mom and dad have described it over the years... it's a great place for a vacation, but I don't see how I could ever live there full time.. it's far too isolated...no high speed internet, no local culture to speak of, no decent cuisine within an hour, not even the basic amenities of suburbia I'm used to--the nearest Starbucks, Best Buy, Target etc are 50 miles away. It's in Tuscarawas County, in the foothills of Appalachia... Only farmers, Amish, rednecks, gun kooks, etc around...no high tech companies or computer industry people like myself..

This reminds me of my family's place in Ohio...rural eastern Ohio, about a 2 hrs south of Cleveland, 1 1/2 hours west of Pittsburgh...nearest town is 250 people, 5 miles away. 150 heavily wooded acres, a 4500 sq ft house, 1500 sq ft guest house, 4 outbuildings (incl 2 2 car garages). Two ponds, one 6 acres, one 10 acres. My folks have owned it almost 40 years.I spent a fair portion of my childhood there. Today, I can't really stay there more than a few days.. it's so deadly dull around there. Nothing to do. No place decent to go out to eat.

One place in Europe I fell in love with is Stresa, a small town on Lago Maggiore in Northern Italy, close to the Swiss border. Beautiful alpine scenery, the lake, islands..very relaxing. I'd love to spend 6 months there every year, and maybe the other 6 months in the heart of London, my favorite big city.

The grille brings it in line with the Malibu front end..

That steering wheel in that GP looks like the one from the FWD cars.. I like the wheel from the early 80s GP...a 3-spoke with big round center pad, aluminumish trim on the spokes..