Drew Dowdell

I'll agree about the wood, but I couldn't find a tan interior Impala. The tan interior with the wood looks 1000 times better. So here is gray X3 interior.... but you're still focusing on items that naturally would be different on cars with a $20k difference. I'm talking about the over all design. Other than the steering wheel, it just doesn't look special, or more better, or any of the terms generally thrown about regarding BMW interiors. These look much more upscale and give a "warm fuzzy" that the X3 doesn't. I mean really. Look at that SRX dash compaired to the X3. Cadillac is ahead of BMW in design in this case. What I'm getting at here is that the X3's asthetic design is more akin to the Impala's when it should be more along the lines of the M-class, SRX, and Touareg.

Wow that new grill makes all the difference!

Ocn, I'm sure you know.... sometimes you just have to take it out and flog it.

What are tomorrow's winning lottery numbers?

the new 6-speed was supposedly dimensionally smaller than the 4-speed it replaced.

I wave my magic stick all the time..... gets me all sorts of wishes...

I'm sure you're only refering to the minutia. My point is, design wise, there isn't a $20k swing here...

Nicer wood texture? It's glossy smooth! Nicer steering wheel design? It must be that 3-spoke thing that everyone harps on. I like neither of them actually Manual transmission isn't an interior feature Nicer leather texture? you can tell that from photographs? Pop-up nav screen... ok you've got me there since the Impala doesn't come with Nav. But still, I was talking about design more than features.

Guys, I need your help.... How is this.... so much more special than this..... seriously....

if the first one wasn't really good, how can the new one be more of a good thing?

he was refering to the supercharged 3800 which has 240hp and 280 torque compaired to the 3900 which has 233hp and 240 torque. yeah, I can see how the s/c 3800 would be faster.

RBB, your sig is appearing twice. Might want to check that out....

I disagree with the premise of the original post because there are people who visit this forum that don't deserve respect. They come to the forum simply to troll and stir up angst while contributing nothing of value. The idea that we must afford someone respect simply because they signed up here is absurd. Toyota Tokers, Wagoner hating wankers and Honda humpers can take it to another forum if their only purpose in being here is to disrespect GM.

I'm mostly kidding BV. Mazda's Miata and RX series were great, the rest were kind of G.A.S. also rans. The 3 is one of the best in the compact market.

Mazda has to start making them first.

My concern with the 300zx would be a car like that is most likely to be beaten to hell simply because it's a much more fun car to drive. The other two can be found in excellent shape in greater numbers simply because they were more likely to be grocery getters. As with any Chrysler FWD car, take your transmission to the local Cathedral to be exorsized. If you're looking at cloud cars and LH cars, you might also want to consider W-bodies or G/H bodies. They have about equal excitement as the Chryslers without the "transmission surprise"

Size queen

Media bias? MSNBC report Small car Honda Civic Hybrid 49 51 Famly sedan Toyota Prius 60 51 Large sedan Toyota Avalon 22 31 Sports car Mazda MX-5 25 30 Station wagon Pontiac Vibe 30 36 Pickup truck Ford Ranger Pickup 2WD 24 29 SUV Ford Escape Hybrid FWD 36 31 Minivan Dodge Caravan 2WD 20 26 when clearly listed on the fuel efficiency by car class page you have Best Large car Hyundai Sonata automatic ................24/33 Best Small Wagon Honda Fit .manual ....33/38...... automatic...31/38 Best Midsized wagon Ford Focus Station Wagon .. manual .....27/37.. automatic ...27/34

Redneck Rampage

are you sure it's dropping all the way from 4th to 1st?

Get them a car with usable torque?

there ya go, the AMD Semprons are good.

More appropriately, the power needs to be there that you expect to be there. If I was driving my CTS around very conservatively, then needed to gun it to merge and the engine responded with all the oompf of an '83 Benz diesel with a busted turbo, I'd be in trouble. If I was driving an '83 Benz diesel with a busted turbo, at least I could plan ahead..... because I'd have time to.

why not an AWD Magnum?