Drew Dowdell

stop driving it like you stole it. A smaller engine has to work harder to move such a large car than a midsize to larger engine does thereby negating the fuel efficiency of smaller displacement. This is the main reason all 3 engines in the 300c get about the same mileage.

1: 2: 3: 4: there, that was easy.

From the Autoweek review:

The I5 is every bit as good as a V6.... it is the rest of the truck that lost the sale. There are those who agree with the stigma of a minivan and don't want one yet still need the utility. Those same people also have heart failure when they see the EPA sticker on a Tahoe or Suburban. These people are willing to pay Tahoe/Suburban money for a people hauler, but don't want the look/stigma of a minivan or the gas mileage of an SUV. These are the people GM is targeting with the Lambda. The Outlook bases around 28k, a much higher transaction price than a 19k Lumi^h^h^hVent^h^h^hUplander. GM has effectively moved into a more upscale market. Why all the hubub?!

More to the point, it's DCX that should be worried about minivans. Sure they make the top seller, but that also means they have the furthest to fall. They need to have an alternative in place to have a nice soft landing.

This will put some serious hurt on Corolla/Matrix and possibly even Jetta/Rabbit.

It would be one thing if GM was making minivans like Chrysler, but does anyone really miss the dustbusters? Will anyone really miss the current U-boats? Lutz is right, there is little to no room left for mini-van growth. They have the same stigma as wagons did in 1992.

nice guys sometimes do get the prince...after kissing lots of toads. edit: They might finish last, but they usually also win best.

Not being a mere human, Santa Claus obviously uses all ten dimensions. on Christmas day.

Still a no. Only available in the Fusion, Milan, MK/Zephyr, MKX, and Edge as of now.

Not yet apparently.

You're right about the mustang, but have any of us actually Driven a Duratec 35 to be able to comment on it?

They should really just call it the "9-best" list since the VQ is on there ever year.

Chas <not a car guy> recoiled when he saw the face of a white new MDX while we were out shopping on Black Friday. edit: and while he likes the looks and loves the interior of the Enclave, he's not a fan of the look of either the Outlook or Acadia. He'd never drive any of them because they're too big for him.

I think they would have done better had they changed their name to Eagle back in 1980. Investing a bit in FWD <it was the all the craze at the time 68> and staying away from the French could have helped too. A small, FWD, non-Renault car to go up against the J-body and K-car would have probably kept them afloat long enough till the SUV kicked in. Then the Concord and it's derivatives could have been an American Subaru and Jeep would have kept going with it's existing lineup. Definately would have kept the Commanche and Grand Wagoneer.

it looks like the front of one of MDM's drawings....

I would have been funnier if they had rode to the event on a GM Hybrid bus and didn't even realize it.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but something I recall was that the deal for Chrysler was much more attractive because AMC already had a substantial amount of work done on the design of the LH car, but not so much that they couldn't be altered into Chrysler's lineup. So if the deal hadn't gone through, the LH cars would have been AMCs and not Chryslers.

I forget which car you have link

Oh nooooz! Toyota gets the Duramax!

I want to see them put that power to the ground..... something only BMW has been able to do with total success.

1984 Honda Fit

I'm buying me a Lexus LS600h L F or... was that a LF600h L .... .. maybe it was a L600FLH f@#k it... I'm getting a Lexus L0L

is that what your wife said?