Drew Dowdell

9-3 with an Avalon butt.

LOL just be glad it didn't say ".... on second thought, go buy a Ford."

G6 Convertible XLR SSR Sky 9-3 Envoy

very tough choice. I think the Aura wins out with me with the tinyest of margins. I like the size of the Lucerne more but I prefer the powertrain of the Aura. What *really* causes me confusion is the interiors. While I like most of the look of the Aura's interior, I prefer the center stack and the material quality of the Lucurne.

Solstice/Solstice GXP

If it weren't for the fact that I'm waiting for a 2008 CTS to replace my current one, I'd probably end up in an Aura. It really is that good. Edit: With as good as a setup as the XR is, I am wondering what GM will do for an Aura Redline. That could seriosly end up being the GTO of today.

I do agree that the XR I drove was quiet, but my comparison car is a CTS which is fairly quiet in it's own right so it's not something that stood out to me. Put it this way, if you blind folded me the sound would have made me think that I was in my own car since the engine notes are identical.

Nissan's interiors, but not in a good way. Civic interior, but not in a good way.

Something I always try to remind new owners of an AWD car. "All cars have all wheel stop."

I think, maybe, each car featured was the top of the line in their respective years... which would be why the Seville is in there.

The rest of your post was quite valid personal opinions. This one part I quoted though, I must disagree with. Gay men can, and often do, find surrogate mothers. Lesbians have artificial insemination. Alternative methods, yes, but still workable and still produce the same emotions. I think the situation you described may be more appropriate for couples who adopt, heterosexual or homosexual. But to say that homosexuals aren't capable of the emotions you describe is just silly.... and you're talking in absolutes again. There are questionable issues within both the gay and straight populations. The difference is, usually the gays with the issues don't want the kids in the first place so that is a self solving problem. One of the problems with adoption right now is that white babies are in the highest demand, but black babies stay up for adoption for years. Sick black babies are doomed to temporary foster care for most of their short lives. It is an unusual tendency that gay couples are less picky on which color child they adopt. They'll often even take the sick babies that no one else wants. These are children who would otherwise live in foster homes or orphanages. Would you deny them a loving, stable, pair of dads?

Sorry fly.... pwns the one you posted.

that type of comparison is like picking up the taking home the second fattest girl a the bar and calling her skinny.

and Aspen ads

woops, my bad. well... uh... it was still produced in the 90s... yeah.. that's what I meant

Allante' came out in 92-93

While I realize the attraction to the 85 Seville is subjective <I like them> in Cadillac's defense, they sold a huge number of them. They were very very popular in their day, so I can see why they included it. they just could have picked one in a more striking colour.

I drove an XR today, here are my impressions: 1. Interior, while not groundbreaking is attractive and high quality. 2. Gauges are awesome 3. Transmission is like butta.... got to play with the slap shift, it's fun on the twisties 4. Turn signal lever felt kind flimsy and out of place compaired to the rest of the switchgear. 5. Moraccan leather is hot 6. heated seats stay on after you shut the engine off till you open the car door 7. very tight turning radius 8. 3.6 is very willing to play, I have one in my CTS so this was expected Overall impression? It's a poor man's front wheel drive Cadillac CTS with a nicer styled interior.

Awesome ad! Though in the shorter spot, I'm not sure I would have jumped directly from 85 Seville to 07 XLR. They could have put the 98 Eldorado in there....

suppose there are religious interpretations, other than your own, that allow gay marriage? just saying....

I completely agree. Those who follow that faith are free to follow it. Where that becomes a problem is when people of faith try to force their faith onto others through civil law.

Do you say the same thing to infertile couples? Gay parents, on average, put more effort into being parents than heterosexual parents do. I'm not saying that gay parents make better parents than heterosexual ones, but similar to those infertile heterosexual couples, if you must make a huge legal, financial, and medical effort to even have the child in the first place, you make sure it's taken care of once you have it. The number of gay parents is relatively small simply because of that effort. The number of unwilling heterosexual parents greatly weighs down the "good parent" average. I can point you to any number of studies that show that the children of gay parents turn out to be boringly normal. We've kept this discussion very civil Razor, please continue to do so.

Actually, in NJ's case. NJ was the first state to legalize joint gay adoption.

I don't see that being the case at all. The Catholics can, and still do, deny people church weddings. Some of the Jewish faiths do it as well. No one has been forcing the churches to marry anyone they don't want to.

They found that the marriage law was only unconstitutional because the DP law did not make up for the inequity. Had the DP law been completely equal to the marriage law <as is the case in Vermont> the court would have likely ruled against the plaintiffs.